Buying a Mosin

[snayperskaya]

Blighty..........I know the retailer you mean.A while back I had a 1954 Cugir Arsenal Romanian M44 I paid £150 for and was at my club one Saturday when a young lad tipped up and produced his M44 "sniper" from out of the bag and proceeded to tell me it was a genuine Border Guard tower rifle blah blah blah........the scope was clearly brand new out of its Chinese box and he paid around £700 for this Mosin and my old Romanian was a better shooter with irons.

[bnz41]

There's a Polish M44 on Gunstar as we speak.

I'd pay more if a good Chinese M44 came along. You just don't see Sect 1 examples here.
The M38 and M44s fitted with scopes are fantasy pieces.
One UK retailer had one he described as a Guard tower sniper rifle. Very funny!

You mean he had made it up :lol: :lol: :lol:

I regret selling my M38

[Blighty]

As our resident Comrade has suggested. Read up on 7.62x54.net and mosinnagant.net.

Bnz - I think the dealer we are talking about makes a lot of things up.

Never ever listen to what UK dealers tell you about them. They rarely know.

[PrecisionGunnerUK]

Thanks all !

I have researched the loads and thanks for the pointers to the other websites. My colleague at Wakey just got a nice carbine from Simplyfirearms, not bad at all.

Regarding Thurnscoe - I have had a short discussion with a club official who couldn't immediatlely think of any objections and have emailed an official request for consideration at the next committee meeting.

Right, now to wait for me ticket to come back from t'polis ... sign92

Cheers !
Paul M.

[Dave 101]

This looks a nice rifle http://auctions.holtsauctioneers.com/as ... &saletype=

Dave

[snayperskaya]

One thing to note with regard to Romanian Mosins is that even by Combloc standards Romania was dirt poor so when Russia replaced their Mosins and SKS rifles with Ak-47s they shipped tons of Mosin rifles, spare parts and production machinery to Romania in the early 50s.Not being in a position to waste anything the Romanians built "new" rifles on old spare Russian receivers so its not uncommon to find Romanian Mosins with a 1940s date and hammer and sickle crest but restamped with a 1950s date.Its also common to find both Russian Izhevsk or Tula arsenal stamps and Romanian Cugir stamps on the same bolt assembly.At a glance it can be quite easy to confuse a Romanian Cugir Arsenal stamp (arrow head in triangle) with a Russian Izhevsk arsenal stamp ( full fletched arrow in triangle).
Another interesting thing with Mosins is that the Soviets and Russians didn't use the Nagant part of the name, it was called the Vintovka Mosina (rifle Mosin) or simply just Mosin.


Still in frontline use in Chechnya in 2004, designated Ots-48

[Blighty]

That one in the auction is A Polish M44. Nice.

[bigfathairybiker]

Hi All,

Thanks for all the info.
I am most likely to go for a carbine.
And I suppose a bit of a "used" look is good. But then again I'll not be wanting to travel too far.

The one in the auction looks "mint", this is what I was thinking about when I mentioned cheap copies.
As I would have thought that being over 50-60 years old it wouldnt look mint.
But also you do mention them being covered in a protective coating, so I suppose they would be mint once it is cleaned off.

I've read a fair amount of the 7.62 site which really is comprehensive.

Mark

[Blighty]

Nope. It's definitely a Pole and they are beautifully made. Soviet Union shipped all of the machinery to Poland after WW2 and these were made in the fifties. Mint because vast numbers of them were unnissued - by the fifties this was ancient technology and semis were the way forward. The Poles took a lot of pride in their firearms.
I'd be very surprised if it went for the estimate.

[Charlotte the flyer]

I would guess Adam, clean the chamber and barrel.....pop in a proof round.... "Bang"....stamp it...give it back...whilst the rest of the rifle is still covered in Uncle Joes storage gunk!

Exactly that.