Change in powder storage regulations

[channel12]

Remember the key phrase "Can you put that in writing please giving me the relevant regulation" . You could also ask if your FEO is authorised under S21 Health and Safety at Work etc Act 1974 to carry out health & safety inspections if he wants to look at your powder storage.

[meles meles]

I assume everyone with more than 5Kg of powder has registered their premises with the Police?

Dear PC Plod,

We wish to inform you that we shall be, temporarily, storing some powder in the cellars of the Palace of Westminster. It's smokeless so you needn't worry about pollution and it isn't black, so the SPG boys don't need to get involved either.

Yours,

Badger

[phaedra1106]

Perfect, that should allay any suspicion of your nocturnal burrowing and carrying of containers of explosives, nice one

p,.s.
If you do get stopped and challenged just say "Plebgate" and they will all disappear.

[knewmans]

The regulations referenced earlier seem to suggest that we can hold 15kg 'shooters powder' and 15kg ammunition/percussion caps (?primers) without license. Section 7 page 18

Where shooters powder includes both black powder and smokeless powder. Page 11

The safety guidance has all shooters powder in wooden boxes in max 1kg containers.

[kennyc]

The regulations referenced earlier seem to suggest that we can hold 15kg 'shooters powder' and 15kg ammunition/percussion caps (?primers) without license. Section 7 page 18

Where shooters powder includes both black powder and smokeless powder. Page 11

The safety guidance has all shooters powder in wooden boxes in max 1kg containers.

what would be the benefit of putting smokeless propellant powder into a wooden box? and would the old kitchen cupboards I use count as a "wooden box" ?

[knewmans]

If it met the guidance it would be good for powder or possibly wine. No restrictions on the amount of wine.

It would be nice if one of the national bodies could extract and make clear the bits relevant to shooters.

[Maggot]

The regulations referenced earlier seem to suggest that we can hold 15kg 'shooters powder' and 15kg ammunition/percussion caps (?primers) without license. Section 7 page 18

Where shooters powder includes both black powder and smokeless powder. Page 11

The safety guidance has all shooters powder in wooden boxes in max 1kg containers.

what would be the benefit of putting smokeless propellant powder into a wooden box? and would the old kitchen cupboards I use count as a "wooden box" ?

Yea Ken, gave me the s*** there, I thought it was 15k (and that's an HSE stipulation no HO).

I keep my in use bottles in a wooden box, but the rest are in a hard plastic tool box...quite a big one....

15kg is quite a bit of powder to be fair.

Bit of a bugger if you buy it in 3.5 Kg containers eh? tesnews

[Sim G]

The bit that relevant to us is in Appendix 7 of the Guidance http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/books/l150.htm
but I must point out this is guidance not law and certainly not firearms law.

In that case, I'll ignore it and pay it no heed what-so-ever....

[zanes]

15kg is quite a bit of powder to be fair.

Bit of a bugger if you buy it in 3.5 Kg containers eh? tesnews

Not that much, bearing in mind it includes that contained in made up ammo- powder on hand for 3 or 4 centrefire calibers, few pounds for the muzzle loader, couple of thousand rimfire rounds, few thousand primers, few thousand shotgun cartridges. Not outrageous by anyone's standards.

[knewmans]

As I read it the regulation doesn't refer to 15kg of explosive in the percussion caps and small arm ammunition but to the caps and ammunition themselves. About 120 rounds of .50bmg or 550 .308 or 1200 5.56 or 4500 22LR. No idea for shotgun cartridges.

The 15kg allowance for powder seems to be in addition to the ammunition.