What is involved in becoming a registered fire arms dealer.
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Re: What is involved in becoming a registered fire arms deal
That reads like a bunch of knobs who have held a monopoly on sales for a long time suddenly facing going under from competition and people being able to find alternatives via the web for the stuff they need.
Those categories are bull* and this person wants their head checking.
Those categories are bull* and this person wants their head checking.
Re: What is involved in becoming a registered fire arms deal
its the "not in someones back yard, to god knows who" bit that p*** me off
hes basically inferring that any RFD without retail premise is selling guns illegally to any tom dick or harry
Ive only dealt with home based RFD's a few times, maybe 3, but on all those occasions I sent a copy of my FAC in advance and showed it when I arrived, then I saw that gun and that gun only
whereas you local gun shop doesnt have security anything like that????
so maybe the home based one is safer??
just a thought LOL
was really angry to read that drivel, especially in a shooting publication, more like what I would expect from an anti, trying to ban guns and gunshops
hes basically inferring that any RFD without retail premise is selling guns illegally to any tom dick or harry
Ive only dealt with home based RFD's a few times, maybe 3, but on all those occasions I sent a copy of my FAC in advance and showed it when I arrived, then I saw that gun and that gun only
whereas you local gun shop doesnt have security anything like that????
so maybe the home based one is safer??
just a thought LOL
was really angry to read that drivel, especially in a shooting publication, more like what I would expect from an anti, trying to ban guns and gunshops
Re: What is involved in becoming a registered fire arms deal
Robbie MacGregor is obviously worried about his business and livelihood. Seems to have contracted a case of "Bullshititis" because if it....!
In 1978 I was told by my grand dad that the secret to rifle accuracy is, a quality bullet, fired down a quality barrel..... How has that changed?
Guns dont kill people. Dads with pretty Daughters do...!
Guns dont kill people. Dads with pretty Daughters do...!
Re: What is involved in becoming a registered fire arms deal
Mattnall wrote:Lack of trade is not a reason to revoke registration or deny renewal. Could just be a bad year...Sim G wrote:Surely on renewal an RFD would have to illustrate continuous business...
I know a couple of part time RFDs and bargains can be always had so I'm told, as a need to "get stuff through the books" ....
In 1978 I was told by my grand dad that the secret to rifle accuracy is, a quality bullet, fired down a quality barrel..... How has that changed?
Guns dont kill people. Dads with pretty Daughters do...!
Guns dont kill people. Dads with pretty Daughters do...!
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Re: What is involved in becoming a registered fire arms deal
He has more to worry about from his "government" and Brussels than his fellow dealers, Ms Sturgeon and her acolytes are the real threat to his livelihood.
That article will also do him more harm than good is suspect as most gun owners will see him in the same light as Yardley.
Unsubstantiated calumny, yet again more gun owning divisiveness from within.
That article will also do him more harm than good is suspect as most gun owners will see him in the same light as Yardley.
Unsubstantiated calumny, yet again more gun owning divisiveness from within.
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Re: What is involved in becoming a registered fire arms deal
Interesting one of his concerns being the delivery driver could easily hand over the parcel to anyone at the address, even a child or neighbour. So much for the 'Addressee Only' and 'No to NBR' Parcelforce requirement, I can only assume his company uses a completely different courier service, FedEX maybe as TNT certainly do not ship anything firearm related any more.
I am not personally aware of any part time RFD's offering bargains to get things through the books.
I am not personally aware of any part time RFD's offering bargains to get things through the books.
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Re: What is involved in becoming a registered fire arms deal
I do not really understand some of the things Robbie MacGregor says...unless of course things are very different in Scotland compared to down here.
Down here PF is not allowed to leave anything that is shipped on the firearms contract with anyone but the recipient. There has to be a business name and contact name on the shipping note. If a parcel shipped on the firearms contract is left with a child or unauthorised person at the address or a neighbour then it is PF's fault, not the recipient RFD. (If Robbie MacGregor was that concerned about sending the firearm because it could end up in the wrong hands why did he send it?)
Guns and ammo for sale in residential houses, risky? Why is it risky when the RFD would not have been approved without the appropriate security in place.
I could turn that around and claim it is risky to have guns and ammo in a retail facility that is empty outside of opening hours.
We are at our premises most of the time, workshop and office are downstairs, we are linked in to the police and our alarm doesn't get better unless you are a bank. Two dogs live here. Our neighbours know our habits which means if something happens out of the ordinary they will call the police.
What is unsafe about that? We have customers coming and going at most hours, after 21.00 and before 9.00 is frowned upon however still accepted, however if a gun has to be handed in for repairs we have to be here as customers normally work and struggle to get to a shop in normal opening hours.
His suggestion of category 2 for repairs...the RFD can only receive parts? What sort of a gunsmith is that?
Normally when we work on guns we need the whole assembly to test with, be that a new trigger or a new barrel or bottom metal.
As long as the police has approved an RFD then I really cannot see what the problem is. RFDs go through strict checks involving business plans and a personal check up, security approvals for the premises. Then comes the accounts with the various suppliers, not always easy to obtain without references (two normally) and if you do not have a store front and been trading for about a year then forget about the big importers. I believe that every single RFD who has been approved has a valid place in the UK market...because quite simply he/she will not keep trading if the business plan is not sound.
Down here PF is not allowed to leave anything that is shipped on the firearms contract with anyone but the recipient. There has to be a business name and contact name on the shipping note. If a parcel shipped on the firearms contract is left with a child or unauthorised person at the address or a neighbour then it is PF's fault, not the recipient RFD. (If Robbie MacGregor was that concerned about sending the firearm because it could end up in the wrong hands why did he send it?)
Guns and ammo for sale in residential houses, risky? Why is it risky when the RFD would not have been approved without the appropriate security in place.
I could turn that around and claim it is risky to have guns and ammo in a retail facility that is empty outside of opening hours.
We are at our premises most of the time, workshop and office are downstairs, we are linked in to the police and our alarm doesn't get better unless you are a bank. Two dogs live here. Our neighbours know our habits which means if something happens out of the ordinary they will call the police.
What is unsafe about that? We have customers coming and going at most hours, after 21.00 and before 9.00 is frowned upon however still accepted, however if a gun has to be handed in for repairs we have to be here as customers normally work and struggle to get to a shop in normal opening hours.
His suggestion of category 2 for repairs...the RFD can only receive parts? What sort of a gunsmith is that?
Normally when we work on guns we need the whole assembly to test with, be that a new trigger or a new barrel or bottom metal.
As long as the police has approved an RFD then I really cannot see what the problem is. RFDs go through strict checks involving business plans and a personal check up, security approvals for the premises. Then comes the accounts with the various suppliers, not always easy to obtain without references (two normally) and if you do not have a store front and been trading for about a year then forget about the big importers. I believe that every single RFD who has been approved has a valid place in the UK market...because quite simply he/she will not keep trading if the business plan is not sound.
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Re: What is involved in becoming a registered fire arms deal
The more I think about it, Robbie MacGregor is implying that Police Scotland is not doing their job, by not being in control of all the RFDs who are operating out of their back-door selling to the criminals...
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Re: What is involved in becoming a registered fire arms deal
The guy from Glasgow fieldsports wasn't any better,Robbie is relatively inexperienced and hasn't been dealing in firearms that long.With the airgun licence thingy and now the cost of getting guns and ammo posted he's feeling the squeeze,the shop is open seven days a week and he rarely gets a day off.
The gun to Inverness must have been my LBR going up to andy632.
The gun to Inverness must have been my LBR going up to andy632.
Re: What is involved in becoming a registered fire arms deal
Looking at his shop....Google image search 'Angler's Choice Dundee', Robbie MacGregor would be better off keeping his opinion to himself - from the outside the place looks like a shack and inside, the gun rack is pitifull.
He's basically a tackle shop with a small rack of guns in the back.
He's basically a tackle shop with a small rack of guns in the back.
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