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Re: M14 EBR Straight Pull - Bipod
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 3:30 pm
by HALODIN
I haven't heard of "torque effect" before, but it makes sense considering what happens as it spins through the rifling. Thanks for the info, very helpful.
Cheers,
Craig.
ovenpaa wrote:I use bipods including the Harris all of the time and even loading them up slightly (Leaning into them) does not totally stop hop which is where the torque effect of the bullet causes the rifle to hop to one side. This is going to happen on the vast majority of bipods unless they are very designed specifically to counter the torque effect. Loading the bipod does help to counter this however all you are trying to do is push everything together as opposed to muscle it down in place, the really important thing is to be consistent in the way you use the bipod from shot to shot.
HALODIN wrote:Thanks. So don't you bother with bipods normally because they hop? Do mean when you push forward on them?
Re: M14 EBR Straight Pull - Bipod
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 3:35 pm
by ovenpaa
I shot the Vikings 6,5-284 in an S CLass comp at 600 and it was hopping three frames down so shoot at #60 and it would end up pointing at #57 or worse, I had to work very hard to keep it where I wanted it and ended up making some mods to the bipod to counter the torque effect. We shot an M65A .308 with the same (modified) bipod last weekend and it did hop but virtually stayed on the frame.
Re: M14 EBR Straight Pull - Bipod
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 3:42 pm
by HALODIN
What do you do to modify them? Weight it down and [stiffen|brace] the legs?
ovenpaa wrote:I shot the Vikings 6,5-284 in an S CLass comp at 600 and it was hopping three frames down so shoot at #60 and it would end up pointing at #57 or worse, I had to work very hard to keep it where I wanted it and ended up making some mods to the bipod to counter the torque effect. We shot an M65A .308 with the same (modified) bipod last weekend and it did hop but virtually stayed on the frame.
Re: M14 EBR Straight Pull - Bipod
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 3:46 pm
by ovenpaa
In simple terms split the frame which allowed me to widen the footprint of the bipod.
Re: M14 EBR Straight Pull - Bipod
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 3:47 pm
by HALODIN
Thanks, that's good to know.
ovenpaa wrote:In simple terms split the frame which allowed me to widen the footprint of the bipod.
Re: M14 EBR Straight Pull - Bipod
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 4:06 pm
by 20series
Ooooh I do like that Craig
I'd go with a Harris notched legs and swivel top :goodjob:
I look forward to seeing it at Barnwell real soon :cheers:
Alan
Re: M14 EBR Straight Pull - Bipod
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 4:15 pm
by HALODIN
Good glad you do!
I think I probably will, but I'll probably wait until the rifle rocks up before deciding. Not sure about the swivel top though, as it adds a bit of height to the bipod, but I'll give it some thought.
I know the rifle's in the country this side of customs, so if you're around next Friday night, I should have it with me.
Cheers,
Craig.
20series wrote:Ooooh I do like that Craig
I'd go with a Harris notched legs and swivel top :goodjob:
I look forward to seeing it at Barnwell real soon :cheers:
Alan
Re: M14 EBR Straight Pull - Bipod
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 4:16 pm
by John MH
I have both the VLTOR and TD bipods.
They are stable but not very quick to deploy.
Re: M14 EBR Straight Pull - Bipod
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 4:18 pm
by HALODIN
Would you rate them over the Harris bipods? Speed isn't too much of an issue I don't think.
Do you have any UK sources for either of them?
John MH wrote:I have both the VLTOR and TD bipods.
They are stable but not very quick to deploy.
Re: M14 EBR Straight Pull - Bipod
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 4:21 pm
by John MH
I don't like Harris Bipods so I think these are better, however, in certain circumstances a Harris might be more suitable.
I got them in the USA, don't know of anyone in the UK that stocks them. You could try Midway UK or Brownells.
http://www.brownells.com/shooting-acces ... =TANGODOWN
