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Sandgroper wrote:Both the old form and the new one asks for calibre not cartridge - so that's the authorisation I requested and received from Grampian and now Police Scotland. At the moment I have authority to purchase a .22 rimfire and a .22 centrefire.

If the guidance says otherwise then they should change the guidance or the form, either way I will continue ask for a generic calibre rather than a specific cartridge until requested otherwise.

Sandgroper, once you finish school and get your degree then move over here mate. Plenty of jobs in the medical sectors plus you don't need to ask anyone's permission to buy what you want.

Blu

Could be on the cards, Blu!

Sandgroper, according to my Missus the medical profession over here is crying out for people with the qualifications you'll have mate and they pay damn good money as well. You'd have no problem getting into the country.

Blu

Shame you don't need I.T. staff. :'(

Sandgroper wrote:Both the old form and the new one asks for calibre not cartridge - so that's the authorisation I requested and received from Grampian and now Police Scotland. At the moment I have authority to purchase a .22 rimfire and a .22 centrefire.

If the guidance says otherwise then they should change the guidance or the form, either way I will continue ask for a generic calibre rather than a specific cartridge until requested otherwise.

Although I agree with what you are saying, what happens in the following scenario;
I own two 8mm rifles, one is an 8x57 (sec 1), the other is 8x60R (sec 58/2 atm), If a slot was to be asked for on calibre alone would it automatically put the 8x60R into sec.1 and therefore illegal? There has to be some sort of differentiation as there are at least three .22 calibres and 5 .30 calibres on the Obsolete list.

Demonic69 wrote:Shame you don't need I.T. staff. :'(

Who says we don't? Have you ever looked into it. Hell silicon valley is full of overseas IT workers.

Blu

Meaty wrote:

Sandgroper wrote:Both the old form and the new one asks for calibre not cartridge - so that's the authorisation I requested and received from Grampian and now Police Scotland. At the moment I have authority to purchase a .22 rimfire and a .22 centrefire.

If the guidance says otherwise then they should change the guidance or the form, either way I will continue ask for a generic calibre rather than a specific cartridge until requested otherwise.

Although I agree with what you are saying, what happens in the following scenario;
I own two 8mm rifles, one is an 8x57 (sec 1), the other is 8x60R (sec 58/2 atm), If a slot was to be asked for on calibre alone would it automatically put the 8x60R into sec.1 and therefore illegal? There has to be some sort of differentiation as there are at least three .22 calibres and 5 .30 calibres on the Obsolete list.

That's why you have an Obsolete list - so no, I don't see how the 8x60R would automatically be S1, if you asked for a generic 8mm. Just my perspective.

Guidance is only advice whether or not it comes from the home office.The law says calibre , any attempt by a FAD to impose their wishes upon you is exceeding their authority .If your permission to acquire says 7.62 / .308 then that's it .

Merseyside police want the cartridge specified, although they are happy for 7.62nato /.308 win and .38spl/.357 to be listed together and treated as the same ..
i think this is very specific to the police force involved tho

Just to play devils advocate; While i understand the frustration (albeit a definite 'first world' problem tesnews ), as i had the same thing on my grant with asking for a 7.62mm rifle, once you have say 7.62x51mm granted, if you then spot a rifle in some other 7.62 variant, is it really THAT much hassle getting the entry changed for free? It could be a carry on if you're buying it at a gun show miles from home i suppose, but if its just in a local shop or private, just pay for it and put the non-variation, variation in