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Re: Who says you can't hunt with an AR

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 5:38 pm
by Blu
All said and done I don't believe that using an AR or a bolt action makes any difference after all it's just a tool in a different configuration. I've used one of my AR's for hunting deer and another for coyotes. Have to say that I dropped all three coyotes that came to the call faster with the AR than I could have done with any of my bolt action rifles.

Grant, the magazine restrictions in most States regardless of type of firearm used is a five round capacity. You can use a 30 round mag mate but if the DNR Officers come around that 30 rounder had better be blocked to accept five rounds only.

Blu :twisted:

Re: Who says you can't hunt with an AR

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 5:57 pm
by Mattnall
I used to use an M4gery in .223 for foxing in the past but recently (last couple of years) I have used an AR carbine in 300Whisper, much nicer and at the relatively short ranges I need to reach out to the Whisper is a better and quieter round.

Fox doesn't know the difference and hasn't complained yet.

Re: Who says you can't hunt with an AR

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 6:08 pm
by Sandgroper
Blu wrote:All said and done I don't believe that using an AR or a bolt action makes any difference after all it's just a tool in a different configuration. I've used one of my AR's for hunting deer and another for coyotes. Have to say that I dropped all three coyotes that came to the call faster with the AR than I could have done with any of my bolt action rifles.

Grant, the magazine restrictions in most States regardless of type of firearm used is a five round capacity. You can use a 30 round mag mate but if the DNR Officers come around that 30 rounder had better be blocked to accept five rounds only.

Blu :twisted:
Cheers Blu :good: I wasn't 100% sure on the magazine restrictions and didn't check before posting.

Re: Who says you can't hunt with an AR

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 6:14 pm
by Grahamcs
So you guys across the pond are allowed 5 round mags and semi auto

And we are allowed 30 rounds but side charging

That's quite funny really.

Re: Who says you can't hunt with an AR

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 6:23 pm
by Sandgroper
The magazine restriction is for hunting otherwise they can have what they like - certain states excepted. ;)

Re: Who says you can't hunt with an AR

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 6:27 pm
by Blu
Grahamcs wrote:So you guys across the pond are allowed 5 round mags and semi auto

And we are allowed 30 rounds but side charging

That's quite funny really.
Yes it is isn't it. I'll tell you another oddity as well. You folks in the UK can go out and buy a suppressor no problem yet over here we have to apply to the ATF for permission and pay a $250 stamp (tax) fee for each suppressor. It can take up to a year just for the ATF to look at the application.

Blu :twisted:

Re: Who says you can't hunt with an AR

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 6:36 pm
by Blu
Grahamcs, as Sandgroper points out , those regs are only for hunting, one can stick a hundred round double drum on their AR any other time.

Blu :twisted:

Re: Who says you can't hunt with an AR

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 6:47 pm
by David TS
Back on topic........

I have a .223 with a side charger. I wouldn't dream of using it for foxing. The first time the bolt was let go with a CLAAAANG (because it has to be), any self respecting fox would be in the next field, laughing.

Sure, you could use forward assist, if you had it, but why would you want to? Foxing is all about making it as easy as possible, and whilst I can close the bolt of my dedicated .222 fox rifle silently, that's what I will continue to do smile2 .

Re: Who says you can't hunt with an AR

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:10 pm
by Blu
David TS wrote:Back on topic........

I have a .223 with a side charger. I wouldn't dream of using it for foxing. The first time the bolt was let go with a CLAAAANG (because it has to be), any self respecting fox would be in the next field, laughing.

Sure, you could use forward assist, if you had it, but why would you want to? Foxing is all about making it as easy as possible, and whilst I can close the bolt of my dedicated .222 fox rifle silently, that's what I will continue to do smile2 .
David, I see what you are saying here but then again it I guess it depends how one hunts. When I go after coyotes for instance I call them in, rifle is already charged and movement kept to a minimum. If I have no luck in one location calling them in then I unload and move to another location and set up again. It's worked for me on many occasions.

Blu :twisted:

Re: Who says you can't hunt with an AR

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:37 pm
by David TS
Blu wrote:
David TS wrote:Back on topic........

I have a .223 with a side charger. I wouldn't dream of using it for foxing. The first time the bolt was let go with a CLAAAANG (because it has to be), any self respecting fox would be in the next field, laughing.

Sure, you could use forward assist, if you had it, but why would you want to? Foxing is all about making it as easy as possible, and whilst I can close the bolt of my dedicated .222 fox rifle silently, that's what I will continue to do smile2 .
David, I see what you are saying here but then again it I guess it depends how one hunts. When I go after coyotes for instance I call them in, rifle is already charged and movement kept to a minimum. If I have no luck in one location calling them in then I unload and move to another location and set up again. It's worked for me on many occasions.

Blu :twisted:
Blu

That's fair comment, it would probably work for called in critters; my foxing is generally done on the move from a Gator, so I wouldn't want to be driving with a chambered round in a rotating bolt rifle. I drive with my .222 on my lap, a round chambered but the bolt handle fully lifted.

Personally, I don't believe a safety catch should be relied on and never use one on any of my rifles. It's either loaded and live, or it isn't loaded at all.