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ovenpaa wrote:Too right Zanes :lol:

Sadler, the London Proof Master would disagree with you when it comes to imported barrels, if they do not have a CIP recognised Proof mark they must be Proofed immediately.

Of course, he's also the guy who will tell you that all screw cut barrels must be sent for proof and all moderators must be proof marked. It's in his interest to drum up business for the proof house.
http://jacksonrifles.com/zz-silencers/ukproof.htm

and this from the Proof house
Importation

The importation of unproved arms into the United Kingdom is subject to control as prescribed in Section 122(4) of the 1868 Act, as amended by the Act of 1978.

Notification of importation has to be given to the Proof House within seven days and/or the arms submitted to proof within twenty eight days of arrival in this country.

These regulations do not apply to small arms imported by any person for his own personal use, while they remain his own property. Penalties for offences are similar to those for the sale of unproved arms.

ovenpaa wrote:Hehehe, this has been discussed before.

All moot when you consider that private individual will find it impossible to have a barrel sent DIRECT to him/her. It will be via his RFD usually and the RFD commits an offence if he transfers an unproofed barrel .

Unless of course you DO manage to find a foreign dealer who will send a barrel direct to you ?

breacher wrote:All moot when you consider that private individual will find it impossible to have a barrel sent DIRECT to him/her. It will be via his RFD usually and the RFD commits an offence if he transfers an unproofed barrel .

Unless of course you DO manage to find a foreign dealer who will send a barrel direct to you ?

Not if the chamber hasn't been reamed.

...and import in person would not require the services of an rfd

saddler wrote:...and import in person would not require the services of an rfd

Fair point.

I don't know how easy it is ( or not ) to get a foreign dealer to just send a barrel direct to an individual here ?

Also, most individuals I know, would need the assistance of a RFD to fit the barrel for them ( assuming its not simply a replacement QD barrel system ) which would again involve an RFD transferring an unproofed barrel ?

As to reamed or not - again, most "individuals" use an RFD to do the reaming ?

breacher wrote:

saddler wrote:...and import in person would not require the services of an rfd

Fair point.

I don't know how easy it is ( or not ) to get a foreign dealer to just send a barrel direct to an individual here ?

Also, most individuals I know, would need the assistance of a RFD to fit the barrel for them ( assuming its not simply a replacement QD barrel system ) which would again involve an RFD transferring an unproofed barrel ?

As to reamed or not - again, most "individuals" use an RFD to do the reaming ?

In the past it was not too difficult at all to get an unchambered barrel sent to an individual but since 9/11 most U.S. companies are reluctant to do so.
No need to involve an RFD at all. Most RFDs are neither gunsmiths or machinists.

No reason at all why an individual can't have an unchambered barrel sent to him and then fit it himself and never bother with proof as long as it is for his own use. The only thing is that at some time during the process he will land up with a chambered spare barrel that he will require authority to hold such as by a slot to hold a spare barrel on his certificate.

Surely you only need a slot etc if it's chambered and threaded? If it's just a blank it's just a steel tube.

Dannywayoflife wrote:Surely you only need a slot etc if it's chambered and threaded? If it's just a blank it's just a steel tube.

Chambered or threaded.

Either can constitute a barrel.

You can import a blank as it is only a metal tube as you say. You can import a barrel if you have lawful authority to possess and you only need it proof tested if you wish to pass it on some how. The importation only mentions small arms and not barrels, and besides there is an exemption for personal use by the importer.