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leeroy7031 wrote:

snayperskaya wrote:If Barnaul 223 is anything like their 54r I wouldn't bother.I tried some in the Dragunov and the group sizes were awful, far worse than Russian milsurp, to the point were I thought my scope was knackered.

Their .223 62g isn't bad, about 1.5" at 100m which is ok for plinking, quite dirty as well.

Surely the Baurnal can't be any worse than the 74 milsurp I've been using. :cool2:

In the SVDS it was truly awful and the 77 dated Novosibirsk Russian milsurp easily outshot it.I know there is a difference in weight (180gr for the Barnaul vs 150gr for the Novosibirsk) but I still expected better from the Barnaul.With 174gr Sellier&Bellot it will cloverleaf three rounds at 100m if I do my bit.

The gun was designed for the 7,62x39.
Whatever caliber, the Vz will never be a match rifle. As long as it hits body vital mass at 100/150 yards ?
Surplus 7,62 Vz58 mags are 10/a penny.