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Sassen are doing button rifling aren't they, so not direct competition?

meles meles wrote:Sassen are doing button rifling aren't they, so not direct competition?

On the thread that Mark Bradley started on UKV there are two big pictures of the Pratt & Whitney cut rifling machine. I doubt you missed those. If there was to be a price difference between two cut rifled UK produced barrels it stands to reason you would only be willing to pay extra if one of the brands were significantly better.

The prices that John Shirley was quoting were very good value for money for button rifled barrels, shame it didn't work out at that.

We saw the pictures and know the machines are there, but when we spoke to Lewis at the shooting show he indicated that they were just doing button rifling at the moment. In our opinion, button rifling is potentially better than cut rifling but we'd love to see both options available and both companies prosper.

DL. I like your humor :-)

GB Barrels Ltd manufactures cut rifled barrels using premium quality steel, we believe the quality of our work is only as good as the materials we use. Our process and product is a premium line and will be priced as such, thanks.

Meles Meles

I'm curious & interested to hear your explication and thinking on this?
"In our opinion, button rifling is potentially better than cut rifling"

Careful, you don't want to disturb the badger from its sett [WINKING FACE]

Gb barrels, do you have a website? Gbbarrels.com is registered but there's no site?

Button rifling is essentially a forging process, and thus changes the local microstructure of the steel in a way that cut rifling does not. Properly executed, those changes will be advantageous. Cut rifling ought not to change the steel microstructure locally, but may introduce small imperfections, micro-burrs and pits for example, that, if not removed by careful honing, could be deleterious to performance.

If properly done, by people who know how to do it, using the best equipment, both processes will produce a good barrel. However, button rifling has the potential to be the better process, approaching the best cold hammer forged barrel for quality and longevity.

Awaits Badger meltdown - I guess it's a good thing that's he's a badger as it's going to take somedigging to get himself out of this hole.

Dennisgrm wrote:DL. I like your humor :-)

GB Barrels Ltd manufactures cut rifled barrels using premium quality steel, we believe the quality of our work is only as good as the materials we use. Our process and product is a premium line and will be priced as such, thanks.

Here's another thing, there's a chap on here called RGC who knows a thing or two about rifles, he mentions in his post that 420 grade steel is desirable.
http://www.full-bore.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=20932

What grade of steel are you planning on using, or have you used for GB barrels - have you produced any barrels? Are they a similar price to the Border product you used to produce?