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Blackstuff wrote:

snayperskaya wrote:Who's side is Nicholas Harman on???.......talk about selling fellow shooters down the river if it isn't their rifle/discipline under threat!!!.

No ones, he's just a typical thicko that doesn't understand that his comments can have repercussions for others. Also obviously hasn't heard of 'The Washington Sniper' that killed over a dozen people using single shots

In Hungerford wasn't it somewhere around an average of 16 minutes between shootings?

Had someone at Police Scotland tell me once that he needed to visit me to check my SGC, as he'd been testing the 9mm Lever Release (they'd bought a couple of them in an attempt to convert them to semi-auto/full-auto)
At the time he was quite insistent that his extensive tests HAD made the SGC run as a semi-auto

I told him that IF my SGC did NOT run as semi-auto I was sending it back - and he better check again - given that mine was a .22

I know that an RFD in Glasgow has been a supplier of certain guns in the past for such tests...normally on a "loan" basis.
The same chap also spent a great deal of time trying to convince himself & others that "slam-fire" pump actions were really all Section 5 as they fired when you kept the trigger pulled back....

This latest "news" smacks of Police Scotland "witch finder general" type activities again - not letting the law or any facts get in their way.

Sounds like the old rumour network doing the rounds! ACPO in their pre Continuity ACPO days were whinging at the Home Office about Lever/Trigger release rifles. They were told to wind their necks in by the Home Secretary at the time!

I certainly wouldn't put it past NABIS to add it to their list of Dislikes and "Stuff we want banned cos we are the experts in guns n all that..."

Lets not forget when the raid of that model shop and the discovery of a sniper rifle magazine and trigger* led to much lurid pronouncements to the press from NABIS about the unrelated matter of historic pistols!

*FT/R Air-rifle and parts of a 3D printer, if NABIS are the experts how come in their press release they did not point out that even if they were a genuine rifle magazine and trigger neither are restricted items and anybody can own them!!!

Sixshot6 wrote: And Hamilton and Ryan were normal people? What is he smoking, they were known trouble causers that their forces did nothing about and would likely have had their certs yanked under most other forces.

It is my understanding that when they applied for licenses the Firearms Licensing Officers who carried out the home visit / interviews recommended to their Police Forces that these men should not be granted licenses.... but they were over ruled.

Blackstuff

No ones, he's just a typical thicko that doesn't understand that his comments can have repercussions for others. Also obviously hasn't heard of 'The Washington Sniper' that killed over a dozen people using single shots

SSSHHHHHHHHHHH!

I know that an RFD in Glasgow has been a supplier of certain guns in the past for such tests...normally on a "loan" basis.
The same chap also spent a great deal of time trying to convince himself & others that "slam-fire" pump actions were really all Section 5 as they fired when you kept the trigger pulled back....

name and shame??

has anyone contacted BSAC or the NRA to find out if this actually true or load of crap ? or even the plod??

Please do say who the rfd in Glasgow was.I don't want to accidentally put business there way

I was reading only last night, a thread started by the officer ( who made the video ) in question.

I thought it was on FBUK but now I cannot find it.

Chuck wrote:

I know that an RFD in Glasgow has been a supplier of certain guns in the past for such tests...normally on a "loan" basis.
The same Police Scotland employee also spent a great deal of time trying to convince himself & others that "slam-fire" pump actions were really all Section 5 as they fired when you kept the trigger pulled back....

name and shame??

Fixed it to prevent confusion...it wasn't the RFD that thought the guns were S.5 due to slam fire = he loaned the Edinburgh police the guns for testing (which they had for about a year!)
Wonder how much THAT dented the Firearms Dept admin budget? (as it was Firearms Enquiry Office staff carrying out these various tests on SGC LR's & pump action shotguns)

if its in scotland, then it has nothing to do with with england or to the rest of the union ! the home office has very limited juridiction in scotland now, all what scotland can do is petition the uk government for full firearms law making powers so they can ban what ever their like !