euro firearms directive vs brexit

[safetyfirst]

If we want to trade with Europe we'll still have to follow their rules. Rather than agreeing to them in a constitutional way we'll be agreeing to them in hundreds of individual trade deals.

[Sim G]

We buy far more from Europe than we sell. If they want a trade deal, access to our very lucrative market, they better be offering something. We don't have to take the scraps from anyone's take either in trade or, ridiculous law....

[Individual]

I can't think of a single EU regulation that has actually affected my shooting. Whereas our own elected politicians have sold us out each and every time. We have the most restrictive gun laws of any European country, all home grown.

Europe with its higher personal gun ownership and many, many firearms manufacturers was a good thing for us in the UK.

Now we're alone on an anti-gun Island with politicians who are controlled by media tycoons.

Enjoy.

[ordnance]

I can't think of a single EU regulation that has actually affected my shooting. Whereas our own elected politicians have sold us out each and every time. We have the most restrictive gun laws of any European country, all home grown.

Europe with its higher personal gun ownership and many, many firearms manufacturers was a good thing for us in the UK.

Now we're alone on an anti-gun Island with politicians who are controlled by media tycoons.

Enjoy.

True they would have more to be concerned about stricter firearms controls coming from here than the other way round.

Theresa May urges Europe to adopt Britain's gun laws after Paris attacks
THERESA MAY will urge European countries to adopt Britain's tough firearms laws in the wake of the Paris terror attacks, as she warned the threat from violent jihadists was "evolving".

[GeeRam]

I can't think of a single EU regulation that has actually affected my shooting. Whereas our own elected politicians have sold us out each and every time. We have the most restrictive gun laws of any European country, all home grown.

Europe with its higher personal gun ownership and many, many firearms manufacturers was a good thing for us in the UK.

Now we're alone on an anti-gun Island with politicians who are controlled by media tycoons.

And that is a very valid point.....

[Chuck]

Theresa May urges Europe to adopt Britain's gun laws after Paris attacks
THERESA MAY will urge European countries to adopt Britain's tough firearms laws in the wake of the Paris terror attacks, as she warned the threat from violent jihadists was "evolving".

Stupid woman - pointless exercise!

[pnuk]

I can't think of a single EU regulation that has actually affected my shooting. Whereas our own elected politicians have sold us out each and every time. We have the most restrictive gun laws of any European country, all home grown.

Europe with its higher personal gun ownership and many, many firearms manufacturers was a good thing for us in the UK.

Now we're alone on an anti-gun Island with politicians who are controlled by media tycoons.

Enjoy.

Completely agree.

[safetyfirst]

You perhaps missed the recent deac legislation and the proposed ban on just about everything not made of wood.

[Chuck]

https://www.nraila.org/articles/2016062 ... semi-autos

Short extract:

While perhaps not the most publicized recent development regarding the European Union, in recent weeks the political bloc has pushed forward with its plans to severely curtail gun rights across its 27 member states. On June 10, the European Council endorsed a version of the proposed changes to the European Firearms Directive pushed by the European Commission late last year in the wake of terrorist violence. The European Parliament still has a chance to weigh in on the issue, with a final vote scheduled for later this year.

In the immediate aftermath of the terrorist attacks in Paris, the EU’s quasi-legislative (and simultaneously executive) branch, the European Commission, expedited plans to set new minimum gun control thresholds for its member states. The centerpiece of the new restrictions is a provision that severely restricts civilian ownership and use of semi-automatic firearms, by placing many of these types of guns in the same category as fully-automatic firearms. Other proposed changes include a new rule placing a five-year limit on firearm license validity, and a requirement for a medical examination for prospective license holders.

The European Commission adopted the proposed changes to EU firearms law on November 18, 2015. The measure is now being considered by the European Parliament, and falls under the jurisdiction of the Internal Market and Consumer Protection Committee (IMCO), led by Chair Vicky Ford of the UK. The European Council, is not a legislative body, but “sets the EU’s policy agenda,” and as such, its decisions can have a significant effect on ongoing legislative efforts. For an overview of the EU’s byzantine legislative procedure..........

Wonder why this wasn't seen more;

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wor ... -batalcan/

[dromia]

I can't think of a single EU regulation that has actually affected my shooting. Whereas our own elected politicians have sold us out each and every time. We have the most restrictive gun laws of any European country, all home grown.

Europe with its higher personal gun ownership and many, many firearms manufacturers was a good thing for us in the UK.

Now we're alone on an anti-gun Island with politicians who are controlled by media tycoons.

Enjoy.

That is one of the most puerile arguments I have seen for long time. The recent spate of anti terrorist legislation will impact greatly of shooting and gun ownership in the UK. But then you seem to have the I'm OK jack attitude that is destroying British shooting and if it doesn't directly effect you then that is fine..

Europe was just another tier of threat to us, yes we are in an anti gun country but being in Europe has done nothing to help us with our own flawed thinking on gun ownership. Leaving Europe hasn't changed the risk to us by our own populace and legislators but it has removed the future real and proven risk to us from the EU.