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Re: Policing and Crime Act 2017

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:42 pm
by saddler
Sim G wrote:
joe wrote:
dromia wrote: Yep that's the met police policy ! Any excause to revoke (not to protect the public or stop the wrong sort ) if they could, they would pull someone's fac for a parking ticket ! Yet at the same time they buy themselves more firepower and wear more paramilitary type clothing !

Honestly Joe, less paranoia please...
Paranoia? That's the Belgian DPM ain't it?

Re: Policing and Crime Act 2017

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 3:36 pm
by daman
At one point I recall the BSSC petitioning to extend Home Office club approval for the use of long barrelled pistols and section 1 shotguns. This would mean we could do proper training and safety awareness.

Does anyone know if this made it into the bill?

Re: Policing and Crime Act 2017

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 5:04 pm
by RDC
It did not.

Re: Policing and Crime Act 2017

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 5:26 pm
by daman
RDC wrote:It did not.
That's a shame.

Re: Policing and Crime Act 2017

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 5:52 pm
by saddler
daman wrote:
RDC wrote:It did not.
That's a shame.
Section 2 versions of the same shotguns would fit the role nicely.

Re: Policing and Crime Act 2017

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 9:09 pm
by daman
saddler wrote:
daman wrote:
RDC wrote:It did not.
That's a shame.
Section 2 versions of the same shotguns would fit the role nicely.
Agreed, I'm looking to get a section 2 model of my shotgun. But the long barrelled pistol situation is a legal farce.

Re: Policing and Crime Act 2017

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 9:55 pm
by pbrazendale
So as this is now law does that mean you can purchase expanding ammo on a section 1 certificate? Or will it take time for RFD's to come round?


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Re: Policing and Crime Act 2017

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:05 pm
by Sixshot6
pbrazendale wrote:So as this is now law does that mean you can purchase expanding ammo on a section 1 certificate? Or will it take time for RFD's to come round?


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It's got assent but the home office guidelines on the matter haven't been published and BASC stated they don't expect them to appear until the summer.

Re: Policing and Crime Act 2017

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:13 pm
by IainWR
The Bill has Royal Assent and is thus an Act of Parliament.

However, the clauses relating to firearms will only come into effect (like most of the 200-odd clauses dealing with all sort of stuff) when the S of S lays an Order before Parliament setting a date. This is so that the various Government departments can write the Regulations that will be required to make the law work to come into effect at the same time. Don't expect the firearms stuff to be effective before, at a guess, autumn 2017.

Re: Policing and Crime Act 2017

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:45 pm
by saddler
pbrazendale wrote:So as this is now law does that mean you can purchase expanding ammo on a section 1 certificate? Or will it take time for RFD's to come round?


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I can think of a main RFD (trade & importer, plus retail) that insists .38 shotshells go on FAC, as they're"pistol calibre" wallhead
They presently also refuse to supply bullets under the tubular magazine exemption!
Wunch of bankers....