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Re: Drone at shooting range
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 7:59 am
by Chapuis
ozone wrote:kevinww wrote:There are rules laid down for all RC aircraft under the CAA Air Navigation Order. Its something that most drone flyers are completely ignorant of or completely ignore and they are slowly screwing up my other hobby Flying proper RC Helicopters. See Here
https://bmfa.org/Info/Know-the-Law
I could find no reference to a non commercial hobby drone being used??
I might be wrong, I only scanned the document but I will put a few caviats onto my first question.
Those caviats are it is taken as stated that the operator of the drone is fully
complient with all legal requirements to fly it in the first place.
Regards
ozone
"THESE APPLY TO ALL MODEL AIRCRAFT AT ALL TIMES, WHATEVER THEIR WEIGHT OR SIZE." is what it says.
Re: Drone at shooting range
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 7:53 pm
by Odd Job
If the drone was above the height of the berm or wall I wouldn't have a problem with it.
I wouldn't like it anywhere near the firing line, because of noise distraction.
Re: Drone at shooting range
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:06 pm
by phaedra1106
I'm only recently qualified as an RCO but surely anything entering the danger area should result in shooting being stopped.
There's nothing in range orders which gives any exception to drones (or anything else for that matter) being an acceptable intrusion into the danger area.
Re: Drone at shooting range
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 6:51 am
by bradaz11
phaedra1106 wrote:I'm only recently qualified as an RCO but surely anything entering the danger area should result in shooting being stopped.
There's nothing in range orders which gives any exception to drones (or anything else for that matter) being an acceptable intrusion into the danger area.
would you stop people shooting every time a bird flew over the firing point? unless it's coming down below the height of a backstop I don't see it as any different.
that said, as long as it is keeping that 50m range, I don't have an issue with it. Although I don't know what laws are currently if you don't want to be identified in the footage, and how you make the operator aware etc
Re: Drone at shooting range
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 7:44 am
by Chapuis
Birds normally no but low flying aircraft yes.
Re: Drone at shooting range
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:31 am
by rox
There was an interesting moment during this year’s Match Rifle meeting when a helicopter came in for an emergency landing right in front of the 1200 yard firing point in the middle of a match. At the last minute he noticed 30 rifles pointing his way; he quickly found enough power to make it out of the line of fire.
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Re: Drone at shooting range
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 5:09 pm
by RDC
rox wrote:There was an interesting moment during this year’s Match Rifle meeting when a helicopter came in for an emergency landing right in front of the 1200 yard firing point in the middle of a match. At the last minute he noticed 30 rifles pointing his way; he quickly found enough power to make it out of the line of fire.
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At what point did the RCO suspend all shooting?
Re: Drone at shooting range
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 12:12 am
by hitchphil
I shutdown Bisley & Pirbright May 2013 when a police helicopter landed in the danger area beyond Stickledown butt to get to an RTA on Red road. The F class chaps were in play at 1200yds but seeing the chopper drop to the line of the power lines i called stop stop stop & radioed Range Office. That was the end of shooting that day. ~4pm vs a 4:30 close anyway. Apparently the F class lot were most upset! the police & NRA later thanked me - shortly after 3 choppers came & went ambulance & 2 police. I believe there were 2 fatalities in the accident.
The Red Arrows have also closed the ranges during an Imperial target rifle match by deliberately flying across Century butts at about 100 feet! 2008 I think - Many an RAF pilot has shot at Bisley so they do know where & what it is !
There is an air danger height for each range. Any aircraft in that airspace during shooting should result in a halt. I think Bisley is 850 feet ~300yds.
I was on target 68 during the drone footage of Georges 2. it was fine & not in any way a distraction or a danger ...... & i know that the CEO & other managers at NRA Bisley were butt marking that match too. MBWA.
Re: Drone at shooting range
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 6:45 am
by rox
RDC wrote:At what point did the RCO suspend all shooting?
At about the point it became clear he wasn't going to pass safely overhead.
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Re: Drone at shooting range
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 6:59 am
by Blackstuff
No issues with them at all, as long as they're being flown safely and everyone has given consent to their image being captured, why would there? Getting shooting 'out there' is the only way we're going to survive as a sport and increase the number of people taking part. A 2min long well made shooting video can do more for 'recruitment' than virtually any other means
