Countryfile - Firearms Licensing

[cthulhu3]

I had work related Anxiety due to a trumped up disciplinary from a manager who doesn't want me at work anymore. It was horrible but ultimately beaten.

FAC result: when i wanted a variation was the request for a letter from the doctors. The Doctors took 3 weeks to respond and that response was a letter to me asking for a payment of £60 to write the letter.

My logic was the paid days i had had off covered my prescription and firearms letter charges. So it was no biggie. I did not however feel supported in anyway by the police or the medical professionals. This was a point where i NEEDED to feel supported.

However i cannot help but feel if you have a blip in your life where you need medication or just help with a mental health issue, this negative approach with the bad publicity and the OTT charges will mean that some people will choose not to get the medical help they need. I think the results of that are far more worrying than making non SGC/FAC holders feel safe in their (according to country file by implication) Townie domiciles.

Who is a depressed person most likely to harm...themselves. Do firearms related suicides get widely reported.....no.

So is this approach for the greater good of society?

Oh well rant over.

good luck ya all and remember looking after number one is far more important than any hobby or Job. Get the help you need when you need it.

[Christel]

good luck ya all and remember looking after number one is far more important than any hobby or Job. Get the help you need when you need it.

Well said

At the end of the day we as firearms owners can't change society, no matter how much we want to given how unfair a lot of the laws/rules are.

Take the fight if you feel you have the strength however if not - read the above quote.

[Blackstuff]

Other than the negative impact it WILL have in some instances with the relationship with a gun owner and their doctor as outlined above, what positive outcomes could it have? Is anyone, either in the Police or GP surgery going to be taken to task for failing to prevent someone later found to unsuitable to own a gun after they've misused it? Recent history suggests not, even when it is obvious to a blind man on a galloping horse that the authorities FUBAR'ed e.g. the shootings at Horden and few years back.

The Police/government have already managed to wrangle full-cost recovery for firearms licensing which at its bare bones principle I disagree with - licensing is SUPPOSED to be for the 'greater good'/protect society as a while so why shouldn't society as a whole have to pay for at least part of it?? (Rhetorical question, I know its because we're a politically acceptable 'minority' to abuse and half the time welcomes the abuse! ) Now the government want me to pay AGAIN for a service I already pay for in taxes, when a computer could easily scan every certificate holders records in minutes for 'flag' conditions?? Well sorry

[dromia]

As legal firearms holders we are not licensed but certified, we are issued with firearms certificates not licenses.

If you look you will see that you have a firearms certificate, not a license, it says so on your FAC, Fire Arms Certificate.

The departments are not actually firearms licensing departments they are firearms certification and explosives licensing departments.

For some reason this gets contracted to firearms licensing, probably just due to laziness.

[Christel]

Just to take this further...it is a firearm - not a weapon.

[Blackstuff]

Well just to be pedantic; museums are issued with firearms licenses, not certificates, but yes vast majority of work carried out relates to certificates. I think 'licensing' as a word is just easier to work with rather than there being any deeper meaning to using it rather than 'certification'.

[dromia]

Not being pedantic, there is a difference 'tween them.

[Sim G]

My explosives “licence” is a certificate and states “is a fit person to acquire and possess”...

[dromia]

As does your FAC, however there are other conditions where explosives licenses are issued by the police.

[Oddbod]

Other than the negative impact it WILL have in some instances with the relationship with a gun owner and their doctor as outlined above, what positive outcomes could it have? Is anyone, either in the Police or GP surgery going to be taken to task for failing to prevent someone later found to unsuitable to own a gun after they've misused it? Recent history suggests not, even when it is obvious to a blind man on a galloping horse that the authorities FUBAR'ed e.g. the shootings at Horden and few years back.

The Police/government have already managed to wrangle full-cost recovery for firearms licensing which at its bare bones principle I disagree with - licensing is SUPPOSED to be for the 'greater good'/protect society as a while so why shouldn't society as a whole have to pay for at least part of it?? (Rhetorical question, I know its because we're a politically acceptable 'minority' to abuse and half the time welcomes the abuse! ) Now the government want me to pay AGAIN for a service I already pay for in taxes, when a computer could easily scan every certificate holders records in minutes for 'flag' conditions?? Well sorry

Do the Police recover full costs from the work involved regarding professional football games?
Somehow I doubt it.
We're an easy (& emotive) target.