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Oh there are lots of crap-tastic rimfire military clones out there for sure and also lots of very high quality rifles made of modern materials.

Personally I think the Kriss stuff fits into the latter category but it’s a first product and has some teething issues.

A modern semi auto .22 will no doubt be getting significantly greater number of rounds through it in a shorter amount of time, I suspect when compared to a single shot or a pump.

Sorry if I upset some sensitive souls. For the first 10 years or so of my time as a target shooter, I shot .22 exclusively. I started off with a Russioan Vostok MU pistol and put many thousands of rounds through it. Thinking that better equipment would inprove my results, i moved up to a Browning match 150. More thousands of rounds, fashions changed and the more modern pistols were appearing. I graduated to a Unique Des 69. I won many competitions with this pistol, but was attracted to the changeable calibre concept and so I got a Walther GP with the 32 conversion unit.
As I became more and more a centrefire shooter, the Walther was not getting much use and I took up classic pistols in a big way. I sold the Walther kit and bought a pre-WW2 Colt Woodsman. My scores did go down, so there is something in the better equipment logic.
My point, that I made rather badly, is that none of the above guns ever gave any trouble at all. I opened the box, shot them for years and eventually sold them -- still in perfect working order.
I function as my club armourer. I am fed up with members buying new or nearly new guns which break in a very short time. Sometimes I can fix them---like making a new firing pin, but sometimes I can't, because the problems relaqte to porr choice of material in the gun.
When you spend a thousand pounds on a new rifle, it should work and continue to work indefinitely.
Fred

It now seems acceptable to the buying public that so many things are sold that do not work as advertised or have a very limited life. Therefore that is what we get.
One of the many reasons why I always avoid trying to buy anything new.

In saying that I have just bought a new black placcy AR copy, probably the only genuine AR semi auto design that is legal in the the UK. It has put a couple of thousand rounds down range so far with nary missing a beat.

FredB wrote: When you spend a thousand pounds on a new rifle, it should work and continue to work indefinitely.
Fred

I do agree with you there Fred.

Didn’t one of our mods once call them “pretendy” rifles.

Hunter87 wrote:Didn’t one of our Admin once call them “pretendy” rifles.

FIFY

RDC wrote:

FredB wrote: When you spend a thousand pounds on a new rifle, it should work and continue to work indefinitely.
Fred

I do agree with you there Fred.

ditto, no argument here! If it doesn’t then the fault should be rectified swiftly.

dromia wrote: In saying that I have just bought a new black placcy AR copy, probably the only genuine AR semi auto design that is legal in the the UK. It has put a couple of thousand rounds down range so far with nary missing a beat.

Bought a Henry Survival Rifle? Hope so, because the Charter Arms AR7 was really shoite, despite being designed when men still wore hats!

I bought a Chiappa M4 .22RF upper a while back, but now the damned NZ guvmint has outlawed all my lowers. We can't even find out whether a dedicated (i.e. an AR15 lower that cannot accept a centrefire upper) .22RF lower will be legal going forward. Damn politicians!

I also have one of the Chiappa .22RF copies of the M1 Carbine and a Ruger 10-22s, so I am not bereft of choices, but I really liked the idea of a .22RF AR15.