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Re: History of the AK
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:32 am
by RJ156
Must be annoying if you ever had the intention of re loading the brass.
But then I guess most people shoot surplus 7.62x39 anyway
Re: History of the AK
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:22 pm
by snayperskaya
RJ156 wrote:Must be annoying if you ever had the intention of re loading the brass.
But then I guess most people shoot surplus 7.62x39 anyway
I reload 7.62x54r for my Tigr which rings the case and have had no problems due to the ring and some cases are on their sixth reloading cycle with no ill effects.
If I fire a round with a ringed case in the Mosin it actually restores the case to its pre-ringed condition.
Re: History of the AK
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:55 pm
by RJ156
Hahaha sounds almost planned!
You got a pic handy of exactly what it does? I have a picture in my head but wanna be sure
Re: History of the AK
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:18 pm
by snayperskaya
Here you go, right at the base of the neck.The ring isn't huge but enough to identify a civvy chamber......
From experience it is more prominent on 7.62x39 cases but a mate of mine reloads his ringed Saiga fired brass and hasn't had any problems.
I have inserted the end of a bent paperclip into the case and ran it back up and over the shoulder and case neck and can't feel anything on the inside of the ring, if you get what I mean and as I said I haven't had any neck seperations or anything.
Re: History of the AK
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:26 pm
by RJ156
Ah I see, it’s just a ring left from obturation
For some reason I was expecting it to me wayyyy more prominent
Good idea though tbh!
Re: History of the AK
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 1:45 pm
by breacher
RJ156 wrote:Ah I see, it’s just a ring left from obturation
For some reason I was expecting it to me wayyyy more prominent
Good idea though tbh!
It is on the 7.62x39.
Pretty much a double shoulder.
Re: History of the AK
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:09 pm
by snayperskaya
7.62x39 Saiga chamber step......
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Re: History of the AK
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:35 pm
by RJ156
I see
Interesting that!
Re: History of the AK
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:49 pm
by breacher
RJ156 wrote:I see
Interesting that!
And true.
Re: History of the AK
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 9:01 pm
by Fedaykin
Glancing at the article this statement rather glosses over some rather key points about the AK-47 story:
Trialed against several experimental designs with the German WWII-era StG44 as a benchmark control gun, Kalashnikov’s prototype AK-46 was sent back to the drawing board for improvements
It was rather more then sending it back to the drawing board for improvements. The AK-46 was rejected and Kalashnikovs team were knocked out of the development contest by the trials board. It was basically a copy of the STG-44 with a rotating bolt and bares very little mechanical relation to the AK-47, Kalashnikov appealed to his mentor and head of the trials Major Vasilii F. Lyutyi and was allowed back in with effectively an all new design.
That new design the AK-47 is suspiciously similar to the rifle that did make it to the final round of trials the Bulkin AB-46. Actually if you look at a picture of a disassembled AK-46 next to a AB-46 and an AK-47 you can see there are a fair amount of shenanigans.