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Re: Offensive weapons act 2019 debacle

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:09 pm
by BamBam
RDC wrote:
yellowhand wrote:
One thing I know, for a fact, when an American says they are willing to stand and fight for their rights, well, believe them is all I can say.
Apart from all those living in places like California, New Jersey, New York and Connecticut...
New York knife laws are more strict than the UK.

Re: Offensive weapons act 2019 debacle

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:16 pm
by BamBam
greenshoots wrote:what exactly are assisted openers, reading the bill it says opened by a mechanism, i have 2 knives one has a hole in the blade which i can open one handed with my thumb and the other one has a knob on the blade which again can be opened one handed are these now band ?

greenshoots
My Kershaw Ken Onion speed safe collection are all spring assisted openers, most of them cost me around $80 and now I have to hand them in and get £20 to stay on the right side of the law.
I bought these so long ago that I have no receipts, so I'll have to accept the couple of hundred quid I'll get on surrender instead of the actual cost or replacement price.

Anything where you need to manually open the blade from closed to locked is still legal, although not to carry without valid reason.

Re: Offensive weapons act 2019 debacle

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:31 pm
by bradaz11
BamBam wrote:
greenshoots wrote:what exactly are assisted openers, reading the bill it says opened by a mechanism, i have 2 knives one has a hole in the blade which i can open one handed with my thumb and the other one has a knob on the blade which again can be opened one handed are these now band ?

greenshoots
My Kershaw Ken Onion speed safe collection are all spring assisted openers, most of them cost me around $80 and now I have to hand them in and get £20 to stay on the right side of the law.
I bought these so long ago that I have no receipts, so I'll have to accept the couple of hundred quid I'll get on surrender instead of the actual cost or replacement price.

Anything where you need to manually open the blade from closed to locked is still legal, although not to carry without valid reason.
I'm hoping screen grabs of websites selling them is evidence of their value. failing that, maybe someone like mikeknives could value them for you?

Re: Offensive weapons act 2019 debacle

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:08 pm
by Daryll
I see Batons are also on the list.. but they mention the spring loaded ones. What about the "Asp" type that the police carry, that open with a flick of the wrist...is possession of those now banned ..?

Re: Offensive weapons act 2019 debacle

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:08 pm
by Sim G
Yes, they are called friction lock batons and are specified in the Act.

Re: Offensive weapons act 2019 debacle

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:16 pm
by Pinguino
AS EXPECTED - It has started...

Dorset Police Firearms and Operational Training Twitter account have posted a picture of an SGC 9mm lever release that was handed in. Inference of course is that the streets are now a safer place - :-/

Re: Offensive weapons act 2019 debacle

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:17 pm
by Andy
Pinguino wrote:AS EXPECTED - It has started...

Dorset Police Firearms and Operational Training Twitter account have posted a picture of an SGC 9mm lever release that was handed in. Inference of course is that the streets are now a safer place - :-/

Yes I saw that also. Described as a rapid firing rifle.

Very sad ..

Re: Offensive weapons act 2019 debacle

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:11 am
by yellowhand
BamBam wrote:
RDC wrote:
yellowhand wrote:
One thing I know, for a fact, when an American says they are willing to stand and fight for their rights, well, believe them is all I can say.
Apart from all those living in places like California, New Jersey, New York and Connecticut...
New York knife laws are more strict than the UK.

LOL
I checked, and can't fine a single person lining up to turn in a knife in NYC.
They even stopped, "Stop and Frisk" checking for CC firearms, which in NYC have been a no no since 1937.
Checking, can't locate anyone there turning in firearms neither.

Non Constitutional laws were made to be ignored.

And all the the New Yorker's I know, come pretty well armed for war.:)LOL

Re: Offensive weapons act 2019 debacle

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:03 pm
by Blackstuff
Pinguino wrote:AS EXPECTED - It has started...

Dorset Police Firearms and Operational Training Twitter account have posted a picture of an SGC 9mm lever release that was handed in. Inference of course is that the streets are now a safer place - :-/
I wonder if they'd have used that picture if the gun had been pink and covered in kitten/unicorn stickers? 8-) teanews (Rhetorical question)

Re: Offensive weapons act 2019 debacle

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:19 pm
by Sim G
The comments on the tweet certainly take them to task about it!

I hate it when “media officers” highlight even the most benign as some sort of success. Which is why the force is then ridiculed. How much reputational damage is done by ill conceived blather?!

You would have thought Trump would have taught the world that!