Alberto wrote:As a recent convert to shooting I would say ignorance and fear are the biggest hurdles. The only way you'll fight that long term is by growing the number of people with shooting experience. As long as the hobby is treated as a dark secret or something for tweed jacketed toffs there won't be much resistance to ever greater restrictions. Get shooting back into schools and youth groups and we might have a hope of reversing the trend.
In this light I think any talk of repealing the pistol ban or allowing Semi-auto centre fires is counterproductive and far too ambitious. 50 cals and MARS actions might even be a fight you wouldn't want to waste too many resources on. Semi auto .22s are probably the most important right to defend as they will be how you get people back into shooting. Perhaps with something like the US's Project Appleseed. Letters to MPs are all well and good but until they think they might lose votes you'll be lucky to get more than sympathy. Wider participation is the key as I see it.
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AND THAT ATTITUDE IS WHY I HAVE TO GET ON A PLANE TO SHOOT PISTOLS .
Me too & you can add semi auto 'evil black rifles', which is why I'll be getting on a plane to the US in a couple of weeks.
The only way we can protect our rights is by pushing back every time another attempt is made to infringe them.
These latest proposals smack of a Conservative Party desperate to woo voters with populist & ignorance driven soundbites, whilst ignoring the concerns of those core voters it has the conceit to imagine will vote for it come what May(sic).
Alberto wrote:As a recent convert to shooting I would say ignorance and fear are the biggest hurdles. The only way you'll fight that long term is by growing the number of people with shooting experience. As long as the hobby is treated as a dark secret or something for tweed jacketed toffs there won't be much resistance to ever greater restrictions. Get shooting back into schools and youth groups and we might have a hope of reversing the trend.
In this light I think any talk of repealing the pistol ban or allowing Semi-auto centre fires is counterproductive and far too ambitious. 50 cals and MARS actions might even be a fight you wouldn't want to waste too many resources on. Semi auto .22s are probably the most important right to defend as they will be how you get people back into shooting. Perhaps with something like the US's Project Appleseed. Letters to MPs are all well and good but until they think they might lose votes you'll be lucky to get more than sympathy. Wider participation is the key as I see it.
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Are you pals with nfrancis by any chance?
Come on Bambi get some
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And the shooting fraternity reply should be............. Is that to offset all the children you c**ts are killing in Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, Etc, etc,etc
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The "save one life" argument is just utter tosh. Plenty other things would save more than one life - but those gets ignored.
Political Correctness is the language of lies, written by the corrupt , spoken by the inept!
The funny thing is that for over a year now I've probably been the most fanatically pro gun person in every room I've been in outside of a gun range. Good luck. You're going to need it.
The funny thing is that for over a year now I've probably been the most fanatically pro gun person in every room I've been in outside of a gun range. Good luck. You're going to need it.
The funny thing is that for over a year now I've probably been the most fanatically pro gun person in every room I've been in outside of a gun range. Good luck. You're going to need it.
This makes for interesting reading - apparently Rudd's grip on her seat (and reality) is rather tenuous and a concerted campaign by shooting constituents could topple her with not too much effort - if they don't suffer from an I'm all right Jack attitude.
Dark Skies wrote:This makes for interesting reading - apparently Rudd's grip on her seat (and reality) is rather tenuous and a concerted campaign by shooting constituents could topple her with not too much effort - if they don't suffer from an I'm all right Jack attitude.
Although there may be three clubs in her constituency , a lot of the members may not be .
The constituency is set in a relatively isolated part of the southeast from the railways perspective and so does not enjoy some of the more general affluence of this part of the country. In the 2000 index of multiple deprivation a majority of wards fell within the bottom half of rankings so it can arguably be considered a deprived area. Hastings has some light industry, while Rye has a small port, which includes hire and repair activities for leisure vessels and fishing. Hastings is mostly Labour-voting, whereas Rye and the rest of the areas from Rother council are Conservative.
What can make the difference is shooters from outside Rudd's constituency offering to help the Labour candidate .
Short of asking the 22,391 Sussex certificate holders which way they voted last time and how they would vote in the next election, it is impossible to say what impact threatening to vote Labour would actually have on the outcome. If the place is as poor and deprived as some suggest, then the people are probably Labour voters already.
And as bad as the Conservatives are.... there are still those who would never, ever vote Labour.
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