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Re: B4: Building Badger's Budget Bangstick
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:39 pm
by Blighty
Are you talking about extraction problems with steel cased milsurp in refurbed Mosin Nagants? There is a reason for this and it isn't how hot the ammo is.
Re: B4: Building Badger's Budget Bangstick
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:51 pm
by Charlotte the flyer
Misurp ammunition in a milsurp rifle yes
Re: B4: Building Badger's Budget Bangstick
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:04 pm
by Blighty
The lacquer on the steel cased rounds gets hot and soft. The cosmolene in the chamber (which could have been there for 70 years and is now dry and invisible to the eye) gets hot and there is an unholy alliance between the two. Run a 12 bore brush dipped in solvent (at the end of a rod) attached to a drill up and down the chamber and the problem will vanish.
Re: B4: Building Badger's Budget Bangstick
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:33 pm
by Alpha1
I for one hate the idea of borrowing reamers, even from very good friends, I much prefer to buy my own as needed and then store them away ready for the next time. Same goes for head space gauges, however I do borrow action keys and lend mine out if I have one someone needs. Also I really do not mind if someone copies my action spanner whilst they have it in their hands.
Action keys can you post a picture of one do you need different ones for different actions. What would a action key look like for a Tikka m65. Do you make your own or do you buy them. How do you secure the barrel to allow the removal of the action.
Re: B4: Building Badger's Budget Bangstick
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:40 pm
by meles meles
We expect 7.62x54R to be around for a good while yet. It's only seen 126 years continuous service so far and is still the standard medium machine gun round of the Russian Army, and widely used elsewhere too in the same role. We'd put money on it seeing service for another 50 years.
Re: B4: Building Badger's Budget Bangstick
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 1:28 pm
by meles meles
So, oomans, is there yet any consensus on the best action and barrel to use? We're thinking of making this a Forum project rifle..
Re: B4: Building Badger's Budget Bangstick
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 1:36 pm
by Sandgroper
meles meles wrote:So, oomans, is there yet any consensus on the best action and barrel to use? We're thinking of making this a Forum project rifle..
Jeez, you're worse than my wife - just pick one and get on with it! emrolleyes
Re: B4: Building Badger's Budget Bangstick
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 1:40 pm
by dromia
Well for mine its a Moisin Nagant M38 action because that is what I had, also I was keen to chamber it in 7.62x53R as it has a good throat and lead for cast bullets and the Lapua brass is actually made for the 7.62 x 53R. I also like rounds that headspace on the rim as that gives extra help in ensuring chamber concentricity.
Last time I discussed this with the gunsmith it was a Lothar Walther barrel that was what we were going for.
For me the chambering wanted is the deciding factor on action so as there is no need for bolt modifications.
Re: B4: Building Badger's Budget Bangstick
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 1:42 pm
by meles meles
It's looking like we should find ourselves a Noise Magnet with a Tula hexagonal receiver then, and then have a world with ovenpaa to see what barrel he would recommend for us.
Re: B4: Building Badger's Budget Bangstick
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 4:16 pm
by Alpha1
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I for one hate the idea of borrowing reamers, even from very good friends, I much prefer to buy my own as needed and then store them away ready for the next time. Same goes for head space gauges, however I do borrow action keys and lend mine out if I have one someone needs. Also I really do not mind if someone copies my action spanner whilst they have it in their hands.
Action keys can you post a picture of one do you need different ones for different actions. What would a action key look like for a Tikka m65. Do you make your own or do you buy them. How do you secure the barrel to allow the removal of the action.
I did a internet search I see how its done. I have a idea how to make a action wrench. The clamp to hold the barrel might take a bit of thinking about but I think it can be done just need a donor rifle to play with now. Hmmm.