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Re: euro firearms directive vs brexit
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 9:10 am
by safetyfirst
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/puerile
Can't see much puerile about it to me.
Perhaps you want to say ill informed or something. I can't think of a single EU regulation that has come into law that's affected my shooting either, though the deactivated firearms legislation I believe has affected some people in the uk?
I don't think silly, trivial or childish can be attributed to our valued member's comments though.
Re: euro firearms directive vs brexit
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 9:18 am
by dromia
Obviously we disagree.
Re: euro firearms directive vs brexit
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:55 pm
by Pete
Safetyfirst +1.................
Shooting as a sport/hobby/whatever carries far more weight in the EU member states than here, so to have voted "out" on the basis that you MIGHT not be allowed to keep a black rifle was short sighted, to say the least.
Same applies to those who followed Farage & co., apparently assuming that an out vote means a massive fall in immigration.
Pete
Re: euro firearms directive vs brexit
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 2:40 pm
by safetyfirst
And 350m a week for the NHS. And numerous other lies.
Re: euro firearms directive vs brexit
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 2:51 pm
by dromia
Obviously loosing with good grace and maturity isn't a quality that is abundant amongst remainers.
Re: euro firearms directive vs brexit
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 3:55 pm
by Odd Job
Europe was just another tier of threat to us, yes we are in an anti gun country but being in Europe has done nothing to help us with our own flawed thinking on gun ownership. Leaving Europe hasn't changed the risk to us by our own populace and legislators but it has removed the future real and proven risk to us from the EU.
I fully agree.
It's as plain as a buffalo in a bath-tub and I can't understand how anybody wouldn't realise this.
Re: euro firearms directive vs brexit
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 4:00 pm
by artiglio
Both sides. Used every trick they could get away with to win. The goverment seemed to think that the mood on their doorstep (london) was representative of the whole country. The leave campaign knew otherwise. The innate sense of right and wrong of the electorate delivered a message that has well and truly set the record straight as to how the country feels.
The result is a reflection on the general election in that the UKIP vote was an indication of what a sizeable proportion of the voters wanted, the conservatives wished to shy away from the UKIP supporter amd the connotations of racism and bigotry that are levelled at them.
If you have the time and inclination, google
Mark pearson , margate task force, warwick road
His report will be one of first results, have a read of what happens in an area subject to high levels of immigration, is it really too much to choose who you live with and have at least some control.
Very little will change in the short to medium term , we'll still be subjected to boo yaa politics. To my mind the people have spoken and I expect our elected representatives to do their best to fulfill the electorates wishes, any that choose to willfully hamper change are beneath contempt.
It should'nt be hard to allow free movement to those that are capable of doing it without recourse to the public purse and remove those who abuse our hospitality. Had such common sense legislation been in place the result would no doubt have been reversed. But it was'nt so the result stands.
Re: euro firearms directive vs brexit
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 6:18 pm
by HALODIN
You should have paid attention, that figure was gross, NOT net and Farage wasn't even in the official leave campaign, neither is he part of the government. So there's no way he could decide where the EU contributions could be used instead. The point was it COULD be spent on the NHS or anything else the government decided. Instead of regurgitating incorrect and inflammatory bile, research the issues first. It's nothing personal against you, but these snide and incorrect remarks are getting on my tits.
safetyfirst wrote:And 350m a week for the NHS. And numerous other lies.
Re: euro firearms directive vs brexit
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 6:22 pm
by HALODIN
I think you'll find most people voted out because the EU is undemocratic, not because of the EU firearms directive. Perhaps it's your view that's shortsighted.
Pete wrote:Safetyfirst +1.................
Shooting as a sport/hobby/whatever carries far more weight in the EU member states than here, so to have voted "out" on the basis that you MIGHT not be allowed to keep a black rifle was short sighted, to say the least.
Same applies to those who followed Farage & co., apparently assuming that an out vote means a massive fall in immigration.
Pete
Re: euro firearms directive vs brexit
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 6:22 pm
by meles meles
Calm down oomans. Alea iacta est. There's been a democratic vote, one viewpoint prevailed. Live with it, and together if you can.