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Re: What is involved in becoming a registered fire arms deal

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 5:14 pm
by dromia
Yes the GTA, and look at the board and which companies those representatives come from.

Re: What is involved in becoming a registered fire arms deal

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:41 pm
by Alpha1
I really had to laugh when I read this thread .

If you are not looking to make any money from having an RFD , then you are stopping one or more full or part time RFD's from making a decent living .

If you have all the machinery needed to do the sort of work you mentioned at home , like a lathe , milling machine and drill press , by all means get your RFD but then charge the going rate for the job . If you are skilled and give a good service , the work will come rolling in .

The problem with the gun trade in this country , is not that there are too many part time dealers , but that there are too many part time dealers who trade at cost price ( or even lower ) to pay for their own shooting activities .

And there are too many shooters who bring in parts and accessories from USA and other places that need export licences but dont have them in place .
Instead they have their friends Billie Bob or Cleatus put things like machine tools on the customs dec , under value them and never pay duty and VAT when the goods get here .

As for there being a cartel , the only cartel I know of in the gun trade is the GTA !

Laugh all you like as I said it was mainly for my own convenience. I don't need to make any money from it.
There are many many registered fire arms dealers in the area were I live one of the being Adam (dromia) His place is about a 30 minute drive from me.
Why would I want to try and compete with them.
Yes I have a small workshop behind the house with a mill, a lathe (soon to be replaced with a up rated version, pedestal drills hundreds of pounds worth of tooling but currently nothing to use them for. A new bigger shop is at the planning stage.
Oh and I have a address in the States I regularly send stuff to that I buy on line and its brought back to the UK twice a year for free.
I currently have reamers go/no go gauges taps and dies and all sorts of other good stuff ready to come back in the new year.
I'm a naughty boy yes I know. Do I care no not a jot.

Re: What is involved in becoming a registered fire arms deal

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 9:37 am
by breacher
Alpha1 wrote:I really had to laugh when I read this thread .

If you are not looking to make any money from having an RFD , then you are stopping one or more full or part time RFD's from making a decent living .

If you have all the machinery needed to do the sort of work you mentioned at home , like a lathe , milling machine and drill press , by all means get your RFD but then charge the going rate for the job . If you are skilled and give a good service , the work will come rolling in .

The problem with the gun trade in this country , is not that there are too many part time dealers , but that there are too many part time dealers who trade at cost price ( or even lower ) to pay for their own shooting activities .

And there are too many shooters who bring in parts and accessories from USA and other places that need export licences but dont have them in place .
Instead they have their friends Billie Bob or Cleatus put things like machine tools on the customs dec , under value them and never pay duty and VAT when the goods get here .

As for there being a cartel , the only cartel I know of in the gun trade is the GTA !

Laugh all you like as I said it was mainly for my own convenience. I don't need to make any money from it.
There are many many registered fire arms dealers in the area were I live one of the being Adam (dromia) His place is about a 30 minute drive from me.
Why would I want to try and compete with them.
Yes I have a small workshop behind the house with a mill, a lathe (soon to be replaced with a up rated version, pedestal drills hundreds of pounds worth of tooling but currently nothing to use them for. A new bigger shop is at the planning stage.
Oh and I have a address in the States I regularly send stuff to that I buy on line and its brought back to the UK twice a year for free.
I currently have reamers go/no go gauges taps and dies and all sorts of other good stuff ready to come back in the new year.
I'm a naughty boy yes I know. Do I care no not a jot.
This forum can be read by the authorities.

And you have indicated your location in relation to Dromia ?

goodjob

Re: What is involved in becoming a registered fire arms deal

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:17 am
by Alpha1
So what.?

Re: What is involved in becoming a registered fire arms deal

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:32 pm
by Pete
Who cares?

Re: What is involved in becoming a registered fire arms deal

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 6:54 pm
by aris
Are there not conditions put on RFD's similar to FAC? For instance number and type of guns or ammo allowed to store/sell? If you are only selling sir guns for instance, or just doing repairs etc.

Re: What is involved in becoming a registered fire arms deal

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:32 pm
by Andy632
aris wrote:Are there not conditions put on RFD's similar to FAC? For instance number and type of guns or ammo allowed to store/sell? If you are only selling sir guns for instance, or just doing repairs etc.

Not that I'm aware of! But we all know that differing Police farces have different way of looking at things. 8-)

Re: What is involved in becoming a registered fire arms deal

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:22 pm
by Sim G
Being a register firearms dealer, trading in firearms, ammo and ancillaries is one thing. Thinking you're a gunsmith because of an engineering background is something completely different. Unfortunately we have very few decent gunsmiths in the UK, but a load of blokes with a lathe and a mill who f-ck up a rifle quicker than a fat sweaty white man in a Thai brothel....

Re: What is involved in becoming a registered fire arms deal

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:30 pm
by Alpha1
Sim G wrote:Being a register firearms dealer, trading in firearms, ammo and ancillaries is one thing. Thinking you're a gunsmith because of an engineering background is something completely different. Unfortunately we have very few decent gunsmiths in the UK, but a load of blokes with a lathe and a mill who f-ck up a rifle quicker than a fat sweaty white man in a Thai brothel....
You are absolutelly correct thats why I dont do gun smith work. If I wanted a gunsmithing job doing like rebarrel for instance I would use some one like David at the shed. But if I want to f__k up my own stuff thats entirely up to me. I know my limitations un like sone of the other numpties out there.

Re: What is involved in becoming a registered fire arms deal

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:37 pm
by Sim G
Alpha1 wrote: I know my limitations un like sone of the other numpties out there.

Unfortunately I have one Remington and a very rare Marlin that were the victim of two of those numpties that are actually regarded in the trade as "names"..... ****