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Re: MARS / Lever Relaease
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:16 pm
by Quarters
Surely the National organisations will be able to issue guidance to clubs?
They must have access to legal advice that can clarify what clubs legally have to about these letter?
Re: MARS / Lever Relaease
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:57 pm
by Sim G
Quarters wrote:Surely the National organisations will be able to issue guidance to clubs?
They must have access to legal advice that can clarify what clubs legally have to about these letter?
Why? What would that achieve or even be the aim?
Re: MARS / Lever Relaease
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:43 pm
by bradaz11
Quarters wrote:Surely the National organisations will be able to issue guidance to clubs?
They must have access to legal advice that can clarify what clubs legally have to about these letter?
clubs don't HAVE to do anything about this letter.
Re: MARS / Lever Relaease
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:46 pm
by Sim G
You're right, they don't have to, but what is to be gained by not doing what's asked in these circumstances?
Re: MARS / Lever Relaease
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:55 pm
by J4mes
I know what could be lost, and that's FEO and backroom staff time.
Time which could be spent processing variations, applications and renewals, which instead might be spent tracking down these firearms if no help is forthcoming from those that shoot them or those who permit them to be shot on their ranges.
Re: MARS / Lever Relaease
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:48 pm
by lapua338
If officialdom deemed these firearms to be so dangerous why are they still in public ownership (the Bill was granted Royal Assent on 16 May 2019)?
There was no evidence to prohibit them. We all know the narrative is bulls**t.
Officialdom demands HO approved clubs maintain impeccable records.
I asked the question why one of your primary responsibilities (data management) is so inadequate?
They didn't like the question nor did they have an answer (p*** and wind came to mind).
Re: MARS / Lever Relaease
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 3:01 am
by bradaz11
Sim G wrote:You're right, they don't have to, but what is to be gained by not doing what's asked in these circumstances?
how many 9mm or 45 acp rifles are there out there that aren't lever release?
a smattering of delisles and other adaptations like that, not a lot else. I'm sure it wouldn't take one person too long to track them all down, after all it's a centrally accessable system isn't it? ie one force can see other force FAC info? why would every dept need to repeat it all themselves?
Re: MARS / Lever Relaease
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:45 am
by Quarters
Sim G wrote:Quarters wrote:Surely the National organisations will be able to issue guidance to clubs?
They must have access to legal advice that can clarify what clubs legally have to about these letter?
Why? What would that achieve or even be the aim?
To ensure we are presenting a united front.
Re: MARS / Lever Relaease
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:46 am
by Quarters
bradaz11 wrote:Quarters wrote:Surely the National organisations will be able to issue guidance to clubs?
They must have access to legal advice that can clarify what clubs legally have to about these letter?
clubs don't HAVE to do anything about this letter.
That's why I feel the NRA and others could issue a response that clubs could use with to send this request back.
Re: MARS / Lever Relaease
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:04 am
by hitchphil
As a club secretary I have received no such request & it will go directly in the bin.
Its not a clubs role to manage 'extremely dangerous weapons, owned by members & that must be taken off the streets'.
Shoot the barrel out till its worse than a Somme relic, then paint them pink & only hand in the bits that are required - convert the rest to std lever action.