Re: Royal Commission Report - Christchurch Mosque
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:43 am
Those responsible for the debacle , ie the police , didn't accept any blame for their wrongdoing , the ACC from Central Scotland police whose responibility it was to regulate FAC's failed to take action on three occasions , once when the secretary of the club of which he had been a member reported to the Firearms department that Hamilton was no longer a member , had in fact been kicked out . Then again when a visit from a PC , to Hamilton to listen to his complaints that he was subject to harrassment by locals who accused him of kiddy fiddling found that he had a shotgun propped up in a corner . The PC reported that Hamilton was erratic and twitchy and she felt very nervous and reported to her superior that in her opinion he was "unfit " to be in posession of a "weapon" . Asecond visit by an officer investigating claims of "kiddy fiddling" found the shotgun still propped in the corner and once again reported that Hamilton was unfit . Nothing was done , the ACC in question was allowed to retire on "ill health " grounds and vanished . All this was reported at the time but then disappeared during the enquiry which whitewashed and hid the guilty for 100 years !Pippin89 wrote:You realise you are arguing the same point as me right?? I quite literally said the laws were adequate but the application of them failed. Something which doesn't happen here these days because the laws are applied more strictly.RDC wrote:But these mass shootings weren't exactly a daily occurrence in New Zealand either. When applied correctly, the law was adequate. It wasn't applied adequately and now all the law-abiding have suffered.Pippin89 wrote:
When I said a the chances of a similar incident happening here are slim, I was referring to a licenced, legal firearm owner going on a mass killing spree. Note that you have listed the only 3 incidents in the last 33 years... That I would call slim!
And in, at least the most recent case, a failing of the system allowed him to have access to guns, not the system itself. He had known mental health issues and was being investigated by HMRC. Both of which should have had his licence revoked but police failed to do it. This goes to show that the rules still worked, it was the enforcement of them that was lacking. Since then the rules have been much more strictly followed and this is why I say the chances of a similar incident today are slim. Not zero but slim.
I'm interested in how you feel the previous NZ firearms laws failed over and above the police not doing their job properly. And how it would be any different to how it could fail here.
