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Majority of US Police carry .40 calibre side arms. I read that some forces adopted the .45 for a while but later reverted back to .40 cal. Incidentally, did you know that because of it's body mass .45 hollow points will only further enrage a charging Grizzly Bear. Apparently .45 ball is one of the few pistol calibre bullets that will stop it.

Purely because I know it and get on with it quite well, I'd go for a Gen 4 Glock 17 in 9mm. Boring but effective.

Rab wrote:Majority of US Police carry .40 calibre side arms. I read that some forces adopted the .45 for a while but later reverted back to .40 cal. Incidentally, did you know that because of it's body mass .45 hollow points will only further enrage a charging Grizzly Bear. Apparently .45 ball is one of the few pistol calibre bullets that will stop it.

I'll bear that in mind...

Sorry... I'll leave now.

AJSawyer wrote:

Rab wrote:Majority of US Police carry .40 calibre side arms. I read that some forces adopted the .45 for a while but later reverted back to .40 cal. Incidentally, did you know that because of it's body mass .45 hollow points will only further enrage a charging Grizzly Bear. Apparently .45 ball is one of the few pistol calibre bullets that will stop it.

I'll bear that in mind...

Sorry... I'll leave now.

Please do, I'm sure you've come across more than one of two Grizzly types during the course of carrying out your duties.

Just a few... although I'm not sure a bundle is a recognised way of surviving a grizzly bear attack...

Getting back to it, what about a USP 9. Should do the trick.

My old Para Ordnance P14 in .45acp

14 rounds of .45acp in 180gr - more oomph than 115gr 9mm and less recoil than 230gr .45acp

Daryll wrote: Thats a new one on me, but looks good for self defence....

There's a lot of small compact handguns available these days for those over the pond.

Some of the highlights in 9mm.

Glock 43



S&W Shield



Walther PPS M2



Walther CCP


You'd be more than adequately armed with any of the above, small enough to conceal, large enough to do the job and not so large they'd be left at home because of weather, printing or hassle.

A glock 19 as I just seem to shoot glocks well,although I'm also a fan of the usp in 9 and 45.

A Glock 19 is a sensible option, same size as my old G23 and comfortable enough to EDCC for an average sized person.

A Glock 19 is a sensible option, same size as my old G23 and comfortable enough to EDCC for an average sized person.


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EDCC ? No idea what you are talking about.