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joe wrote: I think also the numbers of fac/sgc holders is the highest it's ever been since records began ??

Which is brilliant!

And getting kids and students involved in Shooting is the way to go.

Some Clubs have ageing demographics, it's like anything: new blood is vital!

breacher wrote:

Yes I have - and your commments are ill informed.

Appeasment of those who will find fault no matter what type of forearm (sic) we use and no matter what we wear, does not work.

Not sure what was 'ill informed' about my post..? Or who's appeasing who...

Self knowledge is invaluable, and as shooters, we need it more than ever.

I'm a middle aged man with "Black Rifles" and I run around and shoot targets quickly. I also have a nice little collection of Marlin lever guns and I even have a real Stetson!

Nigh on all of my teenage years and into my middle 20s was running around shooting things quickly, most of the time with the guns that the government issued me. And I have lever guns 'cos I really wanted to be a cowboy when I was little. Just not much use for them on a council estate in Newcastle....!

But, I remember vividly have my own semi auto rifles confiscated and having to butcher my shotgun. Then I remember just as vividly have my pistols confiscated and then having to put more air pistols on ticket and having their value destroyed.... I know we as shooters have very few allies of note. I also know that shooting is doomed in this country and to be brutally honest as to how the general public and d***s such as Squires regard me.....

I couldn't give a fvck!

Sim G wrote:
Then I remember just as vividly have my pistols confiscated...

I couldn't give a fvck!

You and me both

When you consider the vast majority don't think you can have guns in the UK legally, how would they even know some bloke was using his black gun on a range far from anyone on a Sunay afternoon? The negative perceptions come from within the shooting community. The likes of that snake Yardley.

I can sadly name a shoot that buries shot game. Have seen it myself.
The landowner is both a high up BASC figurehead and a supporter of the Co-op! (a rabidly anti shooting organisation)

Some very entertaining and amusing points raised here so heres my two 'pennorth worth which probably won't address the original post at all but who cares!

Im 51 ........ is that middle aged or past middle aged?
I dont shoot anything live unless its to eat or is a pest (the latter could be taken very broadly )
Due to Arthritis in my wrists I'm more comfortable with AR style rifles.
When my rifles actually arrive they will be an AR plinker and maybe an MP5 plinker (shock horror, they look like machine guns ) and two chassis rifles, again with AR type pistol grips in different calibres and both scoped probably well beyond what they need to be.
I dont have a Stetson and never will, its baseball caps, flat caps or woolly hats.
I hate underlever rifles with a passion

The question is do I fit a stereotyped pigeon hole now?
Am I a danger to the public because I (will eventually) have 2 "machine guns" and two sniper rifles?
The fact there are more (young) people "packing heat" (technical term there ) these days, especially black rifles is to me all down to the Call of Duty Games clapclap

I await the flak

Once again, its my two 'pennorth worth which probably didn't address the original post at all but who cares!

No animals were harmed in the writing of this tirade.

Gazza wrote: The fact there are more (young) people "packing heat" these days, especially black rifles is to me all down to the Call of Duty Games

Interesting point!

My eldest son went through a 'Call of Duty' phase...

I asked him a number of times whether he'd like to do some actual shooting.

Even asked him if he wanted to shoot some rabbits...

The thought of killing something horrified him, and he had no interest whatsoever in 'real guns'.

The 'virtual generation'!

joe wrote:Here's an article from a couple years ago by him
He is a anti freedom, a liar and trust the government 'communist'

https://www.crimeandjustice.org.uk/reso ... bsidy-guns

What I find interesting is that no one discusses the cost of policing football matches and the sheer cost involved in mopping up after the drunks!

I am willing to be corrected, but it is my understanding that football clubs only pay for the police in the ground not outside, any 'cost' associated with firearms licences pails in to insignificance with this and the cleaning up after drunks: I very rarely drink alcohol and never attend football matches (22 overpaid prima donnas kicking a bag of wind about), why should my taxes to used to pay for these? it is just as fair an argument as theirs.

YES

Worked match-days at Sunderland for about 18 years.
Only the police inside the stadium are an added cost; a way around this was more specialist steward roles.
The crowd control & drunk corralling is courtesy of the tax-payer!