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hitchphil wrote:I recon most properly trained target shooters will be useless in such a scenario even with a gun........... they are trained not to load until on target & they dont use human form targets & the human form is a signal to lower your firearm. - recipe to hesitate & not shoot & ............. oopps too late............

My RPA Gemini looks more like something out of star wars than a firearm & would probably be best used as a club! .... when the armed cops turned up i can hear them now - 'Hey Jedi!.... put the blaster down on the ground with the force!"

All true for target shooters, those who shoot civilian service rifle with a black rifle might be different.

Perhaps we should just wait and see if an incident occurs? However, I am prepared to defend me and mine in any way I can against some marauding terrorist/nutcase.

Be it kitchen, car, legal gun, baseball bat (which I don't have because I don't play that game) or sharp stick, it will be used.

I will suffer the consequences but hopefully we will be alive.

It's fine saying leave it to the armed police but they won't be there when it happens will they? "Excuse me Mr/Mrs Terrorist/Nutcase, could you please stop killing us until the police arrive?"

Dorset_shooter wrote:I hope the caller doesn't have any repercussions of her slightly silly public announcement.

Having said that, it's nice to hear someone questioning our laws from a new world perspective.

I read in The Times today that Ms Hernandez is facing the sack. Plymouth city council passed a vote of no confidence and has written to the home secretary to have her replaced. This is what happens if you make the mistake of being open-minded, honest, and airing an issue to public debate in the modern UK.

In other news Sally Jones who converted to Islam and became ISIS' leading recruiter for Jihadist brides and whose young son is alleged to have executed a hostage for one of their jolly propaganda videos is currently being held at a refugee camp under Kurdish guard and "wants to come home" to Britain now that her husband is dead (killed in a drone attack). Apparently she's been upset that ISIS won't let her leave as she is a 'military bride' "I want to go back to my country" she sobbed.

Her country being the same one she's done her level best to undermine on behalf of Isis. You can be she eventually will be end up back in Britain and the pen-pushers that facilitate this and ministers that allow it won't face a vote of no confidence or a threat to their jobs.

http://news.sky.com/story/is-recruiter- ... a-10935755

I think she should be allowed to come back to the UK, in a pine casket

Dark Skies wrote: I read in The Times today that Ms Hernandez is facing the sack. Plymouth city council passed a vote of no confidence and has written to the home secretary to have her replaced. This is what happens if you make the mistake of being open-minded, honest, and airing an issue to public debate in the modern UK.

Someone should remind the Plymouth council that she has been democratically elected. What right do they have to demand she is sacked? Maybe her supporters should demand that all Plymouth Councillors are sacked.

shugie wrote:

hitchphil wrote:I recon most properly trained target shooters will be useless in such a scenario even with a gun........... they are trained not to load until on target & they dont use human form targets & the human form is a signal to lower your firearm. - recipe to hesitate & not shoot & ............. oopps too late............

My RPA Gemini looks more like something out of star wars than a firearm & would probably be best used as a club! .... when the armed cops turned up i can hear them now - 'Hey Jedi!.... put the blaster down on the ground with the force!"

All true for target shooters, those who shoot civilian service rifle with a black rifle might be different.

Shugie, we are target shooters mate, both inside and out.

Having been shot at and invited to respond I can fairly accurately suggest that most shooters I know would be a liability, myself included. I found response to automatic fire really difficult....odd that.

When some prat suggested that I would have loved to be in Paris I suggested that I would be in a puddle of my own making, along with everyone else.

There is a huge difference between being lucky enough (?) to be armed when a similarly armed intruder breaks into your property and threatens your life, and a semi or full developed fire fight.

It actually worries me that people are even thinking like this. The various PCCs (there has been more than one) that have made these suggestions need a close looking at and also a dose or reality.

The more astute will remember that there were bystanders injured during the last attack, and this was by trained officers and not some numpty fresh from the tour of duty combat academy.

This is not why we shoot people...is it?