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Re: New laws coming?
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:28 am
by Christel
I strongly suspect as SimG also mentioned that it will not be high on the various organisation's agenda.
They will very likely make a statement however BASC/NRA and .50cal rifles/rapid firing rifles, not really something that they are interested in.
Could be wrong
Re: New laws coming?
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:33 am
by Strangely Brown
joe wrote:
Is this official government policy or was slipped in by acpo etc ??0
Joe,
ACPO don't officially exist anymore...but I feel their hand in this!
Re: New laws coming?
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:54 am
by James84
I heard 6 months ago that a government think tank was trying to find a way to prohibit the MARS rifle and I would be surprised if they aren't included in this 'rapid' category.
It's a shame as I had hoped this was all just rumours.
Re: New laws coming?
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:09 am
by Christel
Re: New laws coming?
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:45 am
by Blackstuff
I've emailed the Fifty Cal Shooters Association and Caledonian Classic Arms to see if they've heard anything about this
Re: New laws coming?
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:58 am
by Mikaveli
Here's what I posted on to Amber Rudd's Facebook page:
I read the proposed consultation on "offensive weapons" with interest.
I'm interested to know what the motivation is to reclassify .50 calibre rifles to section 5 is (this effectively bans them)? Whilst 50 cal is on the extreme end of the power scale, I'm not sure this increases the risk to the public over other long range calibres (many are capable of even greater ranges due to ballistics).
Considering that only single shot rifles are available (no semi or full auto) and only target ammunition is available (no explosive or armour-piercing etc.) I don't believe they are more dangerous than other HME rifles. Add to the fact that unlike other target rifles, 50 cal is conditioned so only the specific licence holder can use it (on specific ranges you have to prove access to), I'd assert our existing controls are working.
I also believe there hasn't been a single case of one of these rifles being used in a crime - please correct me if I am wrong?
I don't own (or plan to) own a 50 cal, but I believe they are being targeted unfairly. I certainly don't live in fear of "50 cal crime".
Please write to you MPs and representatives - be polite, be positive and be constructive.
Thanks.
Re: New laws coming?
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:05 pm
by BamBam
Re: New laws coming?
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:49 pm
by Gazza
Mikaveli wrote:Here's what I posted on to Amber Rudd's Facebook page:
I read the proposed consultation on "offensive weapons" with interest.
I'm interested to know what the motivation is to reclassify .50 calibre rifles to section 5 is (this effectively bans them)? Whilst 50 cal is on the extreme end of the power scale, I'm not sure this increases the risk to the public over other long range calibres (many are capable of even greater ranges due to ballistics).
Considering that only single shot rifles are available (no semi or full auto) and only target ammunition is available (no explosive or armour-piercing etc.) I don't believe they are more dangerous than other HME rifles. Add to the fact that unlike other target rifles, 50 cal is conditioned so only the specific licence holder can use it (on specific ranges you have to prove access to), I'd assert our existing controls are working.
I also believe there hasn't been a single case of one of these rifles being used in a crime - please correct me if I am wrong?
I don't own (or plan to) own a 50 cal, but I believe they are being targeted unfairly. I certainly don't live in fear of "50 cal crime".
Please write to you MPs and representatives - be polite, be positive and be constructive.
Thanks.
Excellent words
If you do get a reply it will be what shes told to say and will not answer directly your questions anyway. I would be surprised if she even knows one end of a gun from the other.
May I also suggest everyone putting in a variation as soon as possible for a .50 and a lever release.
Re: New laws coming?
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:02 pm
by Mikaveli
Gazza wrote:Mikaveli wrote:Here's what I posted on to Amber Rudd's Facebook page:
I read the proposed consultation on "offensive weapons" with interest.
I'm interested to know what the motivation is to reclassify .50 calibre rifles to section 5 is (this effectively bans them)? Whilst 50 cal is on the extreme end of the power scale, I'm not sure this increases the risk to the public over other long range calibres (many are capable of even greater ranges due to ballistics).
Considering that only single shot rifles are available (no semi or full auto) and only target ammunition is available (no explosive or armour-piercing etc.) I don't believe they are more dangerous than other HME rifles. Add to the fact that unlike other target rifles, 50 cal is conditioned so only the specific licence holder can use it (on specific ranges you have to prove access to), I'd assert our existing controls are working.
I also believe there hasn't been a single case of one of these rifles being used in a crime - please correct me if I am wrong?
I don't own (or plan to) own a 50 cal, but I believe they are being targeted unfairly. I certainly don't live in fear of "50 cal crime".
Please write to you MPs and representatives - be polite, be positive and be constructive.
Thanks.
Excellent words
If you do get a reply it will be what shes told to say and will not answer directly your questions anyway. I would be surprised if she even knows one end of a gun from the other.
May I also suggest everyone putting in a variation as soon as possible for a .50 and a lever release.
Thanks. Yeah, I'm obviously not expecting any meaningful response - but I think it's important that we have a voice - the more people that see reasonable, rational concerns the better.
I'm also going to write to my local MP - I'm not going to stand idly by while the lawful shooting community is persecuted.
Re: New laws coming?
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:38 pm
by HH1
Mikaveli wrote:Here's what I posted on to Amber Rudd's Facebook page:
I don't own (or plan to) own a 50 cal, but I believe they are being targeted unfairly. I certainly don't live in fear of "50 cal crime".
Please write to you MPs and representatives - be polite, be positive and be constructive.
Thanks.
Mr E, its one thing to post on forums and in closed FaceBook groups..... but do you think it is wise to Publically post on senior politicians FB walls were possibly millions of members of the public (and the Police) can read you views on guns and shooting?
I'm just saying that people need to be careful.