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450 Martini wrote:I take it my antique WW1 trench fighting push daggers are now banned? Although looking at the act i just have to put them in a box marked "Film props" along with some old call sheets that name me as film armourer.
Also i take it it's illegal to paint my artillery sawback bayonet green and stencil the word Zombie" on it. Not that i would want to do such a thing.

Antiques other than flick knives are exempt from the ban so you can continue to possess them.
The painting of your bayonet was already illegal even before the Offensive Weapons Act as that was manufacturing a zombie knife rather than mere possession and clearly made it far more dangerous than an unpainted one.

Here's another chap who's found himself in a bit of bother (Jailed for 2.5 years)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ntric.html

1066 wrote:Here's another chap who's found himself in a bit of bother (Jailed for 2.5 years)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ntric.html

I would be interested in what the "components capable of producing bombs" was... As I'm sure most here know, you could make a bomb with the contents of most peoples kitchens!

Pippin89 wrote:

1066 wrote:Here's another chap who's found himself in a bit of bother (Jailed for 2.5 years)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ntric.html

I would be interested in what the "components capable of producing bombs" was... As I'm sure most here know, you could make a bomb with the contents of most peoples kitchens!

This chap was actually blowing stuff up for his own amusement, apparently. I read it in The Times this morning.
He had a fascination for making things go bang and was in the habit of blowing up water melons and old laptops etc. The sort of thing I don't find particularly shocking - as kids we used to do the same kind of dangerous but fun crap. In our current times, however ...

He drew attention to himself by threatening a dog walker with a crossbow - I can't recall the circumstances for that but not only is it beyond the pale but an incredibly stupid thing to do if you're driving about with bomb-making components and a shed load of pointing instruments and such. When this guy was a kid he must have wanted to grow up to be a suspect.

I think the two and half years he got was for the home made explosives, the ad-hoc explosive bolts for his crossbow (shades of Arnie as 'Dutch' in the original Predator movie) and threatening a member of the public with the crossbow. Given he'll actually see 15 months inside if he behaves himself I reckon he got off damn lightly! The collection of knives and swords would be secondary in the judge's sentencing in the sense it would reinforce any judgment that this was a potentially dangerous man based on the primary issues / charges.

problem is if the knives where in his camper, then they are in public - remember a camper is not a home, it's a vehicle, and vehicles are classed no different to smothing like a back pack

bradaz11 wrote:problem is if the knives where in his camper, then they are in public - remember a camper is not a home, it's a vehicle, and vehicles are classed no different to smothing like a back pack

I hadn't thought about that - interesting point and issue.

Thinking about this case, cogitating on the little a newspaper report tells you, makes me feel uneasy about this guy and his place in / attitude to society a couple of years down the line. He may have family and support 'outside' and his camper is kept safe for him on his release. More likely, he's a loner and society has just deprived him of home and possessions alongside his liberty. As a maybe seriously unstable, reputedly pothead individual he's been brushed under the public carpet for a couple of years, but he might be a hell of a lot more maladjusted and dangerous when he's eventually freed.

The trouble these days is that the authorities have no interest in such people until they've really gone off the deep end and killed people, turned amateur jihadist suicide bomber or whatever. There are precious few support resources anymore, a mere fraction of the charities there used to be, and extended families that supported relatives fallen (or who'd thrown themselves into) hard times are much rarer than they used to be.

bradaz11 wrote:problem is if the knives where in his camper, then they are in public - remember a camper is not a home, it's a vehicle, and vehicles are classed no different to smothing like a back pack

How does that work for the "travelling" community?

1066 wrote:

bradaz11 wrote:problem is if the knives where in his camper, then they are in public - remember a camper is not a home, it's a vehicle, and vehicles are classed no different to smothing like a back pack

How does that work for the "travelling" community?

either it is ignored, or caravans have a different status. I'm not sure on that one. I suspect the former.

When used as such, a motor home is a residence. The knives this cretin possessed just bolster the PR of the circumstances, it was lawful for him to have them in the camper van.