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Toffe, I didn't call Airbrush a Walt......... I've never (knowingly) met him.

I simply implied that he sounded like one when taking the pi$$ out of those of us who prefer the Zen approach to shooting........... :)

Pete

Pete wrote:Toffe, I didn't call Airbrush a Walt......... I've never (knowingly) met him.

I simply implied that he sounded like one when taking the pi$$ out of those of us who prefer the Zen approach to shooting........... :)

Pete

I think poor old Toffe had a sense of humour bypass......(maybe its a requirement before fitting a muzzle brake? )

The government and anti-gun movements are doing a grand job of ridding us of our sport / hobby, but they are rank amateurs when compared to the niche groups and divisions among shooters themselves which will surely lead to the eventual demise of legal gun ownership and use within the UK. Maybe then ... the whingeing will stop!

LL

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Lancs Lad wrote:The government and anti-gun movements are doing a grand job of ridding us of our sport / hobby, but they are rank amateurs when compared to the niche groups and divisions among shooters themselves which will surely lead to the eventual demise of legal gun ownership and use within the UK.

Well said.

But of course, muzzle brake users are not a niche group creating such divisions within the sport by being somewhat selfish in regard to other fellow shooters.....
No sir, not us sir, its all them others sir.

A brake is only a problem when we all cram three persons per firing point TR style. If we now are shooting with covid compliance rules and are at 2 metres apart there shouldn't be that much of a problem. Most CSR competitors use a brake and CSR matches are shot on Bisley one competitor per point and I've never had a problem from another shooter's brake.

A brake is only a problem when it adversely affects someone other than the user.
And I really don't think that asking brake users to show a bit of consideration will cause the collapse of shooting sports.

GeeRam

Pete

channel12 wrote:A brake is only a problem when we all cram three persons per firing point TR style. If we now are shooting with covid compliance rules and are at 2 metres apart there shouldn't be that much of a problem. Most CSR competitors use a brake and CSR matches are shot on Bisley one competitor per point and I've never had a problem from another shooter's brake.

Exactly.

A brake helps me get my .308 back on aim in the positional stages of CSR comps, without the weight, cost and mirage of a moderator.

Likewise in PRL and ELR: reducing recoil is paramount for seeing trace and splash of misses. Brakes are used by nearly all the top shooters.

Those who are trying to make out that using a brake somehow means you aren't manly enough are revealing their ignorance of other disciplines. Guns go bang, shock. I try to reduce the impact of brake usage on those occasions where I can (zeroing or load dev on a club range for eg.) by choosing a firing point at one side of the range or as far from anyone else as possible. Brake use does not equal selfishness.

A bit of tolerance goes a long way.

Pete wrote:A brake is only a problem when it adversely affects someone other than the user.
And I really don't think that asking brake users to show a bit of consideration will cause the collapse of shooting sports.

GeeRam

Pete

The brake issue is only one element that contributes to the sum of the parts. There are plenty other elements which in themselves won't stop us from shooting, but put them all together and we know what will happen. As shooters, we could all do with complaining less and engaging (in a courteous manner) with each other more. Shooting in all of its forms is a great sport/hobby and it's well worth the effort to preserve it.

LL

I once shot next to a guy with a .338 Lapua Magnum (before they were banned at Bisley). I didn't stay there very long ...

Most of my club members use brakes, but we are a considerate bunch and do our best not to annoy anyone.

My Steelcore Cyclone (AKA the AI Crusher) came with a brake, but group tests at 1,000 yards with an ASE Utra showed that the moderator gave better results so I don't use the brake any more.