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Polchraine wrote:If your wife's SGC arrives make sure all guns are on it - if not you can add them. Then hand over your gunsafe key to your wife ... that is all that is needed to ensure you are legal.

Ok the wife's renewed sgc turned up today, both guns are on there which is good in a legal sense but now gives them an excuse to not pull their finger out for my tickets.

Why would they put both our guns on her ticket, is it because they are stored together meaning she could have access to both?

They should only do it if you requested it, but it does make good sense. Just remember that if yours does not arrive to hand your key over to your wife - just in case they pay you a visit.

Polchraine wrote:They should only do it if you requested it, but it does make good sense. Just remember that if yours does not arrive to hand your key over to your wife - just in case they pay you a visit.

No never requested it and wasn't brought up by feo, I can see the reasoning of having them both on there but I suspect it was done due to the delays on my Fac grant and cotermius sgc renewal, I take it that she would have to be with me if I wanted to shoot my gun whilst still waiting for my renewal, so if I still don't have mine by Sunday I can still demand a temporary licence?

So in the future if we sell 1 or both shotguns am i going to have to fillout transfer/sale documents for both licenses?

Broadly, there are two ways to deal with the situation where two FAC holders (or SGC holders I guess) share secure storage. Either:

All the guns appear on both FACs, which gives you complete freedom, but is a PITA when you buy a new gun (you have to get a variation on the other certificate), or:

You get a condition on certificate x that says "the holder of this certificate may also have in his/her possession the firearms held on certificate y." This very neatly allows you to carry each other's guns, with no additional paperwork whatever, though a copy of the othe FAC would probably be a good idea.

I have seen both from different Police forces; I do prefer the second.

And I have seen the same twenty firearms on twenty visitors permits - the Jersey and Guernsey teams can all pretty much carry each other's guns - so all of them come over by air except one who puts all the guns in one car and takes the ferry.

Iain

IainWR wrote:And I have seen the same twenty firearms on twenty visitors permits - the Jersey and Guernsey teams can all pretty much carry each other's guns - so all of them come over by air except one who puts all the guns in one car and takes the ferry. Iain

When we first started taking rifles overseas by ferry we used to hand the whole lot over and just keep the bolts however one time we got moaned at about the weight of ammunition so next time I told them I would leave the ammunition in the car 'as normal' and they seemed perfectly happy with the solution so we always do that now.

The part that did amuse me was the 'secure storage' - it turned out to be a cleaning cupboard in a small storage room just off the car deck

Ovenpaa, do the ferry companies have any problems with carrying ammunition etc?, as my eldest now lives in Amsterdam I was planning to visit and trying to get to Bold Action to buy some primers while I was over.

We usually haul a couple of thousand rounds across the water however that is DFDS and we always tell them what we are moving in advance and declare it to the customs.

You guys need to read this. http://www.basc.org.uk/download.cfm/doc ... 8AA421A2E4

As an retired Police Officer I am constantly amazed by people who are afraid
to push their licensing departments to abide by the law of the land.

If more people stood up for their rights then the situationsbre late renewals wouldnt be so frequent.

Mike

Harrier1980 wrote:I am glad I live in suffolk, from application to Cert - 4 weeks. :goodjob:

I may be in a minority but, I can't fault the service provided by Norfolk Constabulary.
I have held a Section 1 F.A.C. since 1971 and a shotgun permit from the days when you bought it over the counter at the post office.
My local Police (Norfolk) have always in my personal experience, bent over backwards to process certificates as quickly as possible; the average turn around time (until recent staffing cuts) being 5-10 days.
Last March however, they excelled themselves on my behalf. A dealer friend was taking one of my rifles to another dealer and bringing one back for me. I needed one rifle's details removed from my FAC and a varation added to purchase the one he was bringing back; they were both the same calibre.
I contacted the Firearms Dept who invited me over that afternoon and processed my FAC in 60 MINUTES! That has to be some sort of record.
I believe Norfolk and Suffolk have now almalgamated their firearms departments so now, both counties can benefit from good service.
ukrifleman.

Well no Fac or sgc in today's post sign01 so email will be sent tomorrow to request they pull their finger out or provide me with a temporary certificate for my shotgun.