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Just wondering... what are the BASC doing about it?

Also I suppose that once it has gone through what we should do is get as many people as possible to apply for one ( dont send any money! ) even if you dont need or want one. That'll teach em. Maybe.. or maybe not.

Years ago when the poll tax was being chased I eventually got a final letter and I decided to pay some of it at a time but in multiple cheques written out for 50p. Took two cheque books worth and a large envelope. The idea behind this was that it cost more than 50p for them to cash the cheque!

Mark

bigfathairybiker wrote:Just wondering... what are the BASC doing about it?

One of the first organisations to back it, sent e-mails out to the membership (I got one) and it's still on the home page of their website.

Only a fraction of the shooting community is online... :roll:

Sandgroper wrote:
One of the first organisations to back it, sent e-mails out to the membership (I got one) and it's still on the home page of their website.

And they also mentioned the petition in their magazine, p15 but unfortunately didn't provide a link - just search for 'pistol petition 2014'!

Hmmm... mentioned it in the mag...

I would have thought being the voice for a majority of shooters they would have started their own petition by sending out letters to all members asking for a signature. They should then ask to forward that petition to the government themselves.

Also, having their own legal team I would have thought they would be lobbying the government, English and Scottish every month.
They should not rely on their members to contact the MPs etc, they should be doing this themselves.

Ooo... ranty rant.. if I was on their board I'd give em a kick.

Mark

bigfathairybiker wrote:Hmmm... mentioned it in the mag...

I would have thought being the voice for a majority of shooters they would have started their own petition by sending out letters to all members asking for a signature. They should then ask to forward that petition to the government themselves.

Also, having their own legal team I would have thought they would be lobbying the government, English and Scottish every month.
They should not rely on their members to contact the MPs etc, they should be doing this themselves.

Ooo... ranty rant.. if I was on their board I'd give em a kick.

Mark

Did you read the rest of the post? As well as the magazine, they where 'one of the first organisations to back it, sent e-mails out to the membership (I got one) and it's still on the home page of their website'.

Why start a new petition, it just muddies the water.

As far as I'm aware they do lobby MP's but we cannot sit back and let somebody else do all the work - we need to pull our collective fingers out and let MP's know how we, as individual constituents, feel about issues. This adds weight to the representation of national bodies.

As Christel has pointed out again, one of the major problems is the number of shooters who are not online...

...Is there any way that a paper petition could be sent out to members of shooting organisations and gun clubs as well, or would it be too difficult to account for people signing both?

The T&C's don't state you can't sign it on someone else's behalf. In fact as long as they include an e-mail address as well, the government can check if they're concerned the entry is fraudulent. I would say this is a really good idea. I can't sign the petition twice, so I assume it checks if I'm an existing signatory.

The government may contact you by email to:

confirm you have submitted an e-petition
confirm you have signed an e-petition
provide updates about the e-petition

https://submissions.epetitions.direct.g ... conditions

Dougan wrote:As Christel has pointed out again, one of the major problems is the number of shooters who are not online...

...Is there any way that a paper petition could be sent out to members of shooting organisations and gun clubs as well, or would it be too difficult to account for people signing both?

The Club I belong to my main shooting Club the average age is probably at least 60 years old. As far as I know I am the only one that is active on the forums internet etc. I am 63 this year. Anything to do with on line stuff for the club usually falls to me. They are all aware of the petitions existence some of them have signed some have not. From what I have gathered from our lunch time discussions the prospect of owning a .22 hand gun to be kept locked up in a club holds no attraction for them. We are all members of BASC. The club is affiliated to the NRA but only because we have to be to access MOD ranges. You can not go around waving bits of paper in peoples faces and assume that the older generation don't know any better because they have not signed this petition and need leading by the hand by you younger guys. May be we are just fine with what we are doing now and God forbid don't have a desperate need to own and shoot a .22 hand gun.

I think the suggestion is you're allowed to keep them in your cabinet at home.

Alpha1 wrote:the prospect of owning a .22 hand gun to be kept locked up in a club holds no attraction for them.