FirearmsUK - Unity 2015

[DaveFirearmsUK]

I don't think I'll forget it Frank we rarely experience such things.

Are you sure we were plotting a course or simply discussing one of the many issues relating to firearms ownership?

I can only apologise that you felt like you needed to delete your posts, as you say you had made us look "dumb" so you should have left them up. Do you recall what any of our apparent deleted posts said?

I do have to ask one thing Frank do you not see how using inflammatory language such as "pet Rottweiler" & "frothing idiocy" is insulting? It's certainly not how I would attempt to win round people to my way of thinking. To be honest I suspect it would only serve to get peoples backs up and I believe similar language may have been used by yourself in the aforementioned discussions?


Since you seemed to agree with the idea of getting .22 pistols back it is a genuine shame that you cannot see beyond any past differences and support a reasonable request for the good of shooting sports.

Our previous petition was kindly shared in some form by most if not all the major shooting organisations last year in the spirit of unity, something which no doubt helped it surpass the previous petition and for what we are very grateful for. Many other smaller organisations, businesses and several publications also featured it.

[Alpha1]

Like I said we value your input but we are all grown ups here so we now have all the info and we can make our own minds up as to how to respond. Your dire tribe serves no purpose so feel free to retire back to face book. Rubbishing one of our members does your credit ability no good at all.
I would be interested to know before you leave if you are a FAC holder and have you ever shot a .22 hand gun competitavely. Out of interest what disciplines do you shoot and who is your primary club.

[DaveFirearmsUK]

Alpha1 I have no desire to get into a slanging match I do not know what your issue with our organisation, judging from your comments on the thread regarding out .22 petition you really don't like us. If you'd care to tell us why perhaps it's something we can discuss?

Another member invited Firearms UK/myself to respond to criticism and I have, our association was unfairly attacked and our efforts rubbished. We did not start it and I'm quite prepared to move on from it. I would suggest however that rubbishing an honest attempt to get a draconian law repealed and allow a sport to flourish serves equally less of a purpose.


I'm not a club member, I don't target shoot. I'm too young to have had the opportunity to shoot .22 pistols. I am not sure it is a discipline I'd personally take up, however I do believe it should be open and available for all under the terms of section 1 so that people can try it and it can have the chance to flourish. In a similar vein I actively opposed airgun licencing in Scotland(a campaign which lead to the foundation of Firearms UK) I don't use airguns it wouldn't affect me but I did believe that as a "shooter" someone had to do something to help fight against it. The big picture is we are all shooters and any attack on one section is an attack on us all.



It would be much better having 1 million voices defending each other than having a few thousand isolated here and there.

This is the ethos of Firearms UK.

[Alpha1]

Your not a club member you don't target shoot. I am a club member of several clubs I do target shoot I do long range shoot. I do shoot shot guns . I am a certificate holder. I have shot .22 pistols competitively. Please naff off and stop wasting my and other forum members time. I don't really care what you believe you are talking out of your arse. Go away and leave us grown ups to make our own mind up.

[DaveFirearmsUK]

If any other members have any queries please don't hesitate to ask or contact me by P.M

Thank you.

[IsleShoot]

Alpha1, as the member of this forum who started this thread may I suggest you retire.

I specifically started the tread to raise awareness and support for FirearmsUK's Unity2015 campaign as I am an avid supporter of all things handgun and I see their efforts as great value to me personally and the shooting community at large.

If you do not agree feel free not to read the thread nor engage with those that do.

It is enourmously disappointing that this is something you as a fellow shooter cannot get behind because it is our division as a community that is our greatest threat. I do not believe anybody at FirearmsUK bears you any ill nor has sort any grievance against you.

For the record I am in no way involved in FirearmsUK other than I support their efforts wholeheartedly. I am also an FAC holder, I shoot various disciplines at club and national level and Fullbore pistol at international level, you do not speak for me and I doubt 99.9% of the members of fullboreUK do not appreciate your aggressive stance.

This is my opinion.

[Alpha1]

If any forum members have any questions for the gentleman I suggest you email him but just bare in mind he is to young to have ever handled a .22 hand gun. He is to young to have any experience of the lengths we went to to try and re introduce .22 target Shooting. He is not. FAC holder he is not a member of any shooting club and by his own admission he has no experience of shooting .22 pistols. Because he is to young to have any experience of .22 pistols he is not sure he would get into the dicipline anyway. I suggest you read his posts very carefully because he does not come across to me as some one I would rely on to represent me on firearm issues.
If I remember rightly the last time these people came to the forum a whole s*** storm broke out and a lot of forum members fell out big style over there promises to change the world of .22 hand gun ownership. Let's not let that happen again full bore UK is adult enough clued up enough to not need to jump on this band wagon. If we wanted to mount a crusade we are know legible enough to do it on our own. I for one hope he nafs of back to face book and never shows his face again.

[Mike357]

Some disappointing attitudes I must say. This is exactly the reason shooting sports will contribute to its own destruction.

[Alpha1]

Isleshoot I would love to retire but unfortunately I have another 18 month to go. But then I have nothing else to do but shoot. Machine gun parts. Cast boolits. Shoot shot guns.

But if you mean retire from this thread then I have no problem with that the Gentleman in question is a ass. You have absolutely no chance of reintroducing hand guns into the UK and you do a diss service to the shooting community by encouraging them to support these clowns.

[Countryman]

Actually on Facebook at the time I was quite respectful (I was visiting your turf) I chose to side line the female Rottweilers (Erika rings a bell) comments and engage with the two others who seemed to be listening. However it was Erika that suggested that they didn't need the support of someone like me. So she needs to read the unity memo.

Unfortunately FUK have shot themselves in the foot. Preaching Handguns for self defence historically and wanting to be taken seriously by the NRA and BASC now would be rather like finding the intelligent, articulate, young man you had just suited, booted and elevated to potential Prime Minister had an unfortunate swastika tattoo and a history of kiddy fiddling.

Great initiative Dave but you shot me down for having the audacity for suggesting it years ago and just because you think you can make publicity out of it now doesn't mean that you are the right people to take it forward.

I removed my remaining posts and unlinked FUK because I wouldn't want to be associated with such a bunch of loony extremists.

You are not the Masiah you are a very naughty boy!

One thing about this forum I love is that we are all big boys and if my humorous descriptions of your team cause you offence then best to leave now before I become openly offensive and you have to change your nappy.

Small world huh? You don't need someone like me but I'm actively involved in a number of forums where thousands of real shooters meet and I promise you the sins of your past will be laid open wherever you pop up. You see how it works now?

Regards to Erika.