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Andy632 wrote:

Alpha1 wrote:I DO NOT IMPORT ANYTHING THAT IS ITAR RATED INTO THE UK.

Why not, importing is not an issue!

And are you absolutely sure?
bring back anything made by Magpul? ITAR.

And are you absolutely sure?
bring back anything made by Magpul? ITAR.

Who is Magpul what they do ?
What does ITAR mean.

Are you talking about these guys https://www.magpul.com/ if so there is nothing that they are advertising that is of any interest to me.

Alpha1 wrote:

And are you absolutely sure?
bring back anything made by Magpul? ITAR.

Who is Magpul what they do ?
What does ITAR mean.

Here is a link to the US Govt's official page for ITAR. http://www.pmddtc.state.gov/regulations_laws/itar.html
its a lot of reading.

Alpha1 wrote:

And are you absolutely sure?
bring back anything made by Magpul? ITAR.

Who is Magpul what they do ?
What does ITAR mean.

You said you dont import anything ITAR rated ?

Then ask what ITAR is ?

Gundoc wrote:

Alpha1 wrote:

And are you absolutely sure?
bring back anything made by Magpul? ITAR.

Who is Magpul what they do ?
What does ITAR mean.

Here is a link to the US Govt's official page for ITAR. http://www.pmddtc.state.gov/regulations_laws/itar.html
its a lot of reading.

Its not just ITAR , if the company concerned has not registered with the State Dept and paid the fees , they can never get an export licence and can never sell firearms related products to anyone outside USA .

Gundoc wrote:

Andy632 wrote:

Alpha1 wrote:I DO NOT IMPORT ANYTHING THAT IS ITAR RATED INTO THE UK.

Why not, importing is not an issue!

And are you absolutely sure?
bring back anything made by Magpul? ITAR.

Yes, Importing is not the issue; the big issue is with EXPORTING from the states.

aris wrote:Are there not conditions put on RFD's similar to FAC? For instance number and type of guns or ammo allowed to store/sell? If you are only selling sir guns for instance, or just doing repairs etc.

I've certainly bought a rifle from an RFD who had a limit on the number of rifles he could hold at a time a couple of years ago, from memory it was around 10. I think he was mostly a repair/rennovation sort of business, he was operating from an engineering workshop and I think it was a sideline for his main business.

When I first started as an RFD I had some limits imposed on me, 25,000 rounds of ammunition and 25 rifles (From memory) I then added bolts, receivers and complete actions, 50 of each and these days I have no named restrictions on any S1 or S2 items held.

I have seen many RFD certs along the way as we always ask for a copy before shipping/receiving anything and have seen some very specific restrictions in some cases, I have also heard of unusual restrictions including one significantly sized RFD business that cannot scrap off items such as barrels or sound moderators, instead the FEO has to attend the destruction of the item and note it on the RFD log. Personally I just bung them in the horizontal band saw, chop in the appropriate place and bung them in the scrap bin having first removed any salvageable or potentially usable parts. Wooden stocks make for a cheap source of fuel for the stove unless it is nice wood which is saved for future projects.

there is some strange restrictions I have seen over the years, quantities of guns and ammo etc, storage methods, in 95% of cases these were applied to home based RFD or the part time RFD as I would call them

generally S1 and S2 RFD is pretty open, in all the S5 dealing I have seen, it will state number of complete firearms and component parts.

maybe a bigger S5 dealer/manufacturer is different