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Maggot wrote:You wont get the same affect as the states because they are a totally different culture. The gun has featured since the injuns were riding the plains, and is seen in a totally different way. It really is a right to own one over there, while here it is a priviledge.

And the source of their right is English common law and our own Bill of Rights ...

Nevertheless, the right to bear arms in the US is subject to licensing regulations, but it is accepted that they do not infringe the Second Amendment because the regulation of a right is not necessarily equivalent to infringing the right.

I think the same applies in the UK because the Bill of Rights is still in force, but our governments have been allowed to be more aggressive in their regulation of our rights.

"Regulation of your rights2 - that's PC for "REMOVE" nowadays isn't it?

Ref the USA thing: here's the maths...Facts do show that gun crime (although no gun has ever committed a crime) is down.

https://www.usacarry.com/forums/handgun ... mbers.html

dromia wrote:We used to have an Ayatollah's head, hand held (1:1 scale) that would scarper along the top of the mantlet and every one got as many off at it as they could as it passed their firing point. We got 26 hits out of 30 rnds fired in one pass at 300 yrds one day, that Ayatollah target used to improve accuracy no end, target was fecked afterwards though, not much left to patch.

Brilliant! clapclap

Chuck wrote:"Regulation of your rights2 - that's PC for "REMOVE" nowadays isn't it?

Not my words Chuck. It's the view of "legal scholars" in the US (whatever they are).