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Re: SGC 9mm & Henry Big Boy .44 - Bad Morning :(
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:17 pm
by NoEntry
I dont understand how the follower/feed ramp is ending up so high in the action?
Some sort of fault with the Glock mags?
Re: SGC 9mm & Henry Big Boy .44 - Bad Morning :(
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:20 pm
by phaedra1106
Mags don't touch it, it's sank into the lower on a vertical pillar with a retaining screw which (I assume) is used to lock it at the correct height.
Re: SGC 9mm & Henry Big Boy .44 - Bad Morning :(
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:53 pm
by toffe wrapper
Have a look at your mag lips i have attached a pdf of what Idid to mine to stop feeding issues. when testing I noticed jams like yours so I adjusted the feed lips so the round pops up earlier allowing the rim to get behind the extractor and go into battery.
TW
Re: SGC 9mm & Henry Big Boy .44 - Bad Morning :(
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:49 pm
by kennyc
I think you are all missing the point, there is a fault with the rifle,any work on the mag lips is to get around this fault , it doesn't alter the fact that there is a fault in the first place.
Re: SGC 9mm & Henry Big Boy .44 - Bad Morning :(
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:48 am
by jonseyi
toffe wrapper wrote:Are these the mods thet were done to the bolt. The mag springs are stiff just leave them loaded for a week just load and unload them every day to work the spring
9mm bolt.pdf
Looking at it yes
Re: SGC 9mm & Henry Big Boy .44 - Bad Morning :(
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:45 am
by toffe wrapper
Jonseyi
Did you get the rifle from roding, I had a long chat with phil about what I did to my bolt. he siad SGC were moding the bolts but rem primers are seated deep so bolt can catch on the primer pocket. I then explaind my mag mod, I can only describe the fault as a timing issue between the bolt movement and mag releasing the round.
kenny c
Not missing the point that it had issues. But it took me 30 min after first range visit to work out problem and 20min to fix. I know of lots of products that have had faults / issues that needed sorting (sat map gps had several updates and faults with sd cards) And as this a new kind of rifle action teathing problems can be expected.
But as i have posted before Glock are having problems with new gen 4 mags with very stiff springs and the plastic nubs by the front of the feed lips. My diy fixes sorted out the issues for me so if they help others, or even SGC if they read my post future buyers will get a produt that does work or buy knowing what is needed to make them work.
TW
Re: SGC 9mm & Henry Big Boy .44 - Bad Morning :(
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:28 am
by Mike357
Bolt mods by SGC, have been mentioned on other forums.
Re: SGC 9mm & Henry Big Boy .44 - Bad Morning :(
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:47 am
by jonseyi
toffe wrapper wrote:Jonseyi
Did you get the rifle from roding, I had a long chat with phil about what I did to my bolt. he siad SGC were moding the bolts but rem primers are seated deep so bolt can catch on the primer pocket. I then explaind my mag mod, I can only describe the fault as a timing issue between the bolt movement and mag releasing the round.
kenny c
Not missing the point that it had issues. But it took me 30 min after first range visit to work out problem and 20min to fix. I know of lots of products that have had faults / issues that needed sorting (sat map gps had several updates and faults with sd cards) And as this a new kind of rifle action teathing problems can be expected.
But as i have posted before Glock are having problems with new gen 4 mags with very stiff springs and the plastic nubs by the front of the feed lips. My diy fixes sorted out the issues for me so if they help others, or even SGC if they read my post future buyers will get a produt that does work or buy knowing what is needed to make them work.
TW
Got it through my local RFD direct from SGC, I'm waiting on two more mag's to arrive then I'll try trimming one, as you say there is a fault with the rifle but if this little tweak works then thats ok by me. Don't want to send it back and let it sit on his desk for a month. I spoke to Bob this morning explaining it still does not feed after his bolt mod, he then said they all get tested before they leave there with 115gn fmj's and told me to try them. I think they should work with whatever you put in them regardless, it's after all an expensive gun that should work,will try the mag mod and also polish the leading edge of the chamber as mine seems to be scraping small amounts of case off!!
will post back with my results
Cheers
Ian
Re: SGC 9mm & Henry Big Boy .44 - Bad Morning :(
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:51 pm
by toffe wrapper
I agree about them working with any ammo I am using 124 grn fmj S&B and 130 grn jacketed fiocchi with out problems. I think the ammo SGC use and recomend is 115 grn S&B. Could you post a picture of your offical modded bolt so I could compare it with mine.
TW
Re: SGC 9mm & Henry Big Boy .44 - Bad Morning :(
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:56 am
by jonseyi
These are of my sgc modded bolt and a round after a jam, should be able to just see the mark from the chamber