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Re: Gun factory found in Sussex.
Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 6:41 pm
by 1066
More news on this case: Looking at the video it seems there's a bit of fine tuning necessary.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... years.html
Re: Gun factory found in Sussex.
Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 9:04 pm
by shugie
More straight pull than semi-auto
Re: Gun factory found in Sussex.
Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 11:04 pm
by bradaz11
so 121 end caps and 2 guns, plus the actual 1922. what a haul.
Re: Gun factory found in Sussex.
Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 7:08 am
by Chapuis
shugie wrote:
More straight pull than semi-auto
Yes and at £5,000 a throw reportedly. I don't know about the "criminal gangs" but I would be pretty hacked off if I paid £5,000 for a gun and it wouldn't shoot. Perhaps the crims can get their money back through the small claims court.
Re: Gun factory found in Sussex.
Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 9:13 am
by JSC
bradaz11 wrote:so 121 end caps and 2 guns, plus the actual 1922. what a haul.
They'll be 'semi-auto, military style end caps' though. More dangerous than normal end caps.
Re: Gun factory found in Sussex.
Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 2:22 pm
by Dark Skies
Chapuis wrote:shugie wrote:
More straight pull than semi-auto
Yes and at £5,000 a throw reportedly. I don't know about the "criminal gangs" but I would be pretty hacked off if I paid £5,000 for a gun and it wouldn't shoot. Perhaps the crims can get their money back through the small claims court.
As the Americans say "I know, right?"
£5K for a single shot pistol is crap.
Not being a criminal myself I don't know what access to decent quality firearms they have. But I'm guessing if hard drugs can be got into the country relatively reliably then guns ought to be just as easy.
If you have a budget of £5,000 surely it'd be more practical and economical to go to the States, buy a BP revolver, ship the frame packed in lead shot (to avoid X rays) to the UK, do the same with the barrel. Buy one of those conversion cylinders for turning BP revolvers into centre fire - send that packed in lead shot. Buy the non-FAC parts UK side. Assemble.
Then you'd have a pukka reliable revolver, plus a US holiday, and plenty of change out of your five grand.
Hmmm should I be concerned that my mind turned easily to this hypothetical challenge?
The hard bit is having a disposable delivery address just in case things go pear-shaped.
Re: Gun factory found in Sussex.
Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:21 pm
by Musclebob
Re: Gun factory found in Sussex.
Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 11:29 pm
by Dark Skies
For some reason the link doesn't open. I assume they are blueprints for a Sten gun. Those things weren't the most reliable when factory made, I've read, so a home build would probably be ... problematical.
Re: Gun factory found in Sussex.
Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 5:53 pm
by Fedaykin
Interesting, remember when this was first reported I speculated that if they were Semi-Auto pistols they would be based on something that they can get magazines for. After that I also speculated that a simple blow back Browning design like the TT-30 would make sense. I wasn't that far off, the Browning 1922 a blow back design is a variant of the FN Model 1910 that can trace its lineage back to the Browning 1903 which is what the TT-30 was derived from.
Browning 1922 magazines can be sourced both second hand and new fairly easily and the £5000 price is not that surprising, prices are high due to the risk for the manufacturer involved.
From a technical view the FN Model 1910/1922 is interesting as it has the operating spring is sleeved over the barrel a feature seen in the Walther PP Series and the Makarov.
Re: Gun factory found in Sussex.
Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 6:40 pm
by GeeRam
Dark Skies wrote:I assume they are blueprints for a Sten gun. Those things weren't the most reliable when factory made, I've read, so a home build would probably be ... problematical.
Nothing wrong with the STEN.
Great bit of kit for peanuts cost. The only problems with it were not down to the gun but the mags, damaged lips would cause ammo to not feed, and people loosing the ends of their little fingers if they didn't hold it correctly when firing it.