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Re: Simple spooting scope system

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:22 am
by fenix
dromia wrote:Good job.

General question, how does one know which tablet device would work the camera before buying one?

The portability of this system that is the key, having found that cheap chinky tablets won't work the camera what are the options that won't break the bank?

I am loathe to spend a lot on a tablet as this would be the only use I would have for one.
Best bet would be to get a list together of what people on here have got it working with. I am waiting for the camera to arrive.
If people are struggling with getting enough power from the tablet you can get Y adapter cables that are designed to have a power source plugged in on the other side
Like this
https://www.amazon.co.uk/KIMILAR-Micro- ... tg+y+cable
then add a battery like this
https://www.amazon.co.uk/RAVPower-16750 ... tery&psc=1

Re: Simple spooting scope system

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:39 am
by Racalman
dromia wrote:General question, how does one know which tablet device would work the camera before buying one?
Well I noted that Alan used a Tesco Hudl, so I bought one (a Hudl 2) on eBay. It cost me £40 and is in as new condition, with a good battery life. Works perfectly with the app that Alan recommended. Also my wife uses it when I'm not ...

The only problem with it is that it runs an old version of Android which can't be updated and is not compatible with the latest version of Google Play Services. You have to turn off automatic updates then install an older version then it's all OK.

I did wonder about trying to find a better quality camera as I think we're pushing our luck with these cheap ones. There aren't many around but this one seems popular with the telescope community. Anyone here tried it?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bresser-Micros ... +telescope

Re: Simple spooting scope system

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:39 am
by johngarnett
Racalman,
I see that the package contains a CD. This may mean the software is for lap/desk top PC's.
I don't think you can easily load a CD prog to a Android tablet.
Open to correction though!


I would really appreciate a list of all the successful components. Not against experimenting but 'tis just after Xmas!!

Thank you all

JohnG :cornwall:

Re: Simple spooting scope system

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 1:16 pm
by Daryll
I'm having similar problems getting my tablet (Win 10) to find the camera...

I bought one as mentioned previously from the 'bay and a OTG cable to connect it to my tablet... but I can't find any suitable software to display the camera image.... the inbuild camera apps only seem to work with the tablets own camera. If i look in "devices" a "USB 2.0 camera" is listed, but nothin will use it.

More tinkering needed... I'm trying to get this set up on my beam scales to display the pointer more consistantly...

Re: Simple spooting scope system

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 1:36 pm
by sclg
Daryll wrote:I'm having similar problems getting my tablet (Win 10) to find the camera...
I just use VLC which is my 'standard' W10 media player anyway. It always seems to see an attached camera device.
http://www.videolan.org/

S

Re: Simple spooting scope system

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 1:42 pm
by Racalman
johngarnett wrote:Racalman,
I see that the package contains a CD. This may mean the software is for lap/desk top PC's.
I don't think you can easily load a CD prog to a Android tablet.
Open to correction though!


I would really appreciate a list of all the successful components. Not against experimenting but 'tis just after Xmas!!

Thank you all

JohnG :cornwall:
The Amazon Q&A for this camera has a couple of replies confirming that it does work with Android devices.

As for components that work, you will find links near the top of this thread to the camera and Android app that Alan recommended. If your telescope has a 1.25" eyepiece and you don't want the hassle of making an adapter you could try this camera instead:

[url]
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-25-Telesco ... ect=mobile[/url



Both these cameras come from China so it takes a couple of weeks to get them.

Re: Simple spooting scope system

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:40 pm
by 1066
I'm not at home for a few days but I'll get back with this next week. I have the system working well with two different cameras both less than a tenner. Also running easily on cheap £30 tablet and phone.
I'll get a list of parts and links next week.

Re: Simple spooting scope system

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:15 am
by Alpha1
I use the camera on a laptop without any issues. Using windows 7. I don't do windows 10.

Re: Simple spooting scope system

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 7:39 am
by dromia
Camera works fine on my laptop and PC as has already been demonstrated in this thread but as portability and compactness is the beauty of a tablet and the point of this thread then the laptop/pc route negates this. I don't want to use my phone but a cheap dedicated tablet, the issue is getting one that powers the camera without external batteries or external power supplies. Hopefully Allan has found one that is readily available.

Re: Simple spooting scope system

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:15 am
by Racalman
dromia wrote:Hopefully Allan has found one that is readily available.
Tesco Hudl ...