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The ACPO doesn't exist!joe wrote:They should organising meetings with ministers and MPs ! loobying then to bin this bill last time
I've checked the home office and ACPO do not get to vote on laws
if you believe that then I have a bridge in London I need to shift quickJSC wrote:The ACPO doesn't exist!joe wrote:They should organising meetings with ministers and MPs ! loobying then to bin this bill last time
I've checked the home office and ACPO do not get to vote on laws
they just changed the name .Unless your MP is Trudy Harrison, that's a standard reply fed to MP's from somewhere in the Home office, as my reply from her landed in the post this morning & is word for word identical to the above. Funny that, as I have a copy of my email to her stating I had already resdponded to the consultation.pigsy wrote:I’ve received a response from my MP. Hopefully my letter was rational and well worded yet I feel the response hints that this is perhaps a foregone conclusion. My initial reaction was to respond and state that perhaps the tools of the current terrorists - rental vans, HGV’s and chefs knives should also face similar scrutiny using that logic but have refrained.
“Thank you for your recent email regarding the consultation on offensive and dangerous weapons.
It is my understanding that Ministers have said that in proposing to prohibit the ownership of .50 calibre 'materiel destruction' rifles of a type that the potential range and penetration of these weapons are such that they are a significant risk if they, or the ammunition, were to fall into the wrong hands, which is why it has proposed that they no longer be allowed for civilian use.
That being said, I do understand your concerns around the points you've raised on the way in which the wording of the consultation is handled, so I have forwarded your views onto the Home Secretary to view as part of the consultation, but I would also encourage you to respond to the consultation directly.
I hope that is helpful in the meantime.
Best wishes”
OK, so let's look at putting together an organisation that IS representative of UK shooters as a whole.dromia wrote:I think the majority of certificate holders have no illusions about the lack of our "national" bodies efficacy in championing gun ownership, they pay them their money for other reasons, mainly access to Bisley, insurance and the occasional bit of advice.
Even after the blatant shafting the "national" bodies gave the pistol owners nothing changed with them.
Oddbod wrote:OK, so let's look at putting together an organisation that IS representative of UK shooters as a whole.dromia wrote:I think the majority of certificate holders have no illusions about the lack of our "national" bodies efficacy in championing gun ownership, they pay them their money for other reasons, mainly access to Bisley, insurance and the occasional bit of advice.
Even after the blatant shafting the "national" bodies gave the pistol owners nothing changed with them.
I'm retiring early, so will have time available to work at this should someone with more political savvy get the ball rolling.
If nothing else, it might make the moribund & unrepresentative upper echelons of the NRA & BASC sit up & take notice (I wish...).
I got a different and more relevant response from Nick GibbOddbod wrote:Unless your MP is Trudy Harrison, that's a standard reply fed to MP's from somewhere in the Home office, as my reply from her landed in the post this morning & is word for word identical to the above. Funny that, as I have a copy of my email to her stating I had already resdponded to the consultation.pigsy wrote:I’ve received a response from my MP. Hopefully my letter was rational and well worded yet I feel the response hints that this is perhaps a foregone conclusion. My initial reaction was to respond and state that perhaps the tools of the current terrorists - rental vans, HGV’s and chefs knives should also face similar scrutiny using that logic but have refrained.
“Thank you for your recent email regarding the consultation on offensive and dangerous weapons.
It is my understanding that Ministers have said that in proposing to prohibit the ownership of .50 calibre 'materiel destruction' rifles of a type that the potential range and penetration of these weapons are such that they are a significant risk if they, or the ammunition, were to fall into the wrong hands, which is why it has proposed that they no longer be allowed for civilian use.
That being said, I do understand your concerns around the points you've raised on the way in which the wording of the consultation is handled, so I have forwarded your views onto the Home Secretary to view as part of the consultation, but I would also encourage you to respond to the consultation directly.
I hope that is helpful in the meantime.
Best wishes”
"Representative Democracy" may arse.
I'll upload a copy of my letter from her tomorrow or Sunday.
Perhaps he'll be judged as not worth looking into and continue his career as Keith Vaz has, nothing proven but not too sure the alleged behaviour suits them to "high office".Sim G wrote:Unfortunately, the Rt Hon Damian Green has other “things” on his mind at the moment...