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Re: mosin nagant bayonets illegal?
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:23 pm
by ovenpaa
Two options, remove the bayonet and fit a 3/8" rod in it's place to keep the balance and remain legal, something that is a nonsense really.
Plan B, move south of the border...
Re: mosin nagant bayonets illegal?
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:26 pm
by meles meles
Plan C: Vote no to independence and kick out Salmond?
Re: mosin nagant bayonets illegal?
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:34 pm
by Gaz
My understanding of "public place" in law is that it basically means anywhere the public can get into without needing to cross a barrier or pay a fee.
As Iain
pointed out, the Nagant 44 itself is probably OK, but the real problem here is what about all those other rifles (Enfields and so on) with fully detachable bayonets? How long will it be before we see Scottish police staking out ranges and trying to arrest entire rifle clubs for a technical offence created by cretins?
The real problem here is the SNP are immune to logic and reason and would probably (very publicly) refuse to make a legal exemption for separate bayonets.
Re: mosin nagant bayonets illegal?
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:36 pm
by meles meles
But surely, the 'good reason' argument applies ? Bayonets are intended to be used on rifles, and many rifles have sights that are set with bayonets in place, thus reinforcing the 'good reason' argument.
Re: mosin nagant bayonets illegal?
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:08 pm
by Sandgroper
Scottish Sniper wrote:I had a vist from my FLO on Thursday just past and am being told that i am not allowed to take any of my bayonets outside my house as it is then classed as a public place, i am also being told that private and military ranges are public places?? How can that be....
I have been deemed by Police Scotland as a responsible person who can own firearms, so i can be in the truck on my way to Warop with several high powered rifles hundreds of rounds of ammo yet i have to leave the pigsticker bayonet for my Nagant at home because its an offensive weapon???
I use the bayonet on my 91/30 when sitting on the ground as i feel that it shoots better with it on and it is better balanced.
Any thoughts.....
Question - Did you acquire your MN before or after the 19th April 2007? The reason I ask is that's when the Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Act 2007 received Royal Assent, which is root of this situation - SNP notwithstanding.
I'm not sure the date of purchase could be used in your favour, but it might serve as a basis of an argument by suitable Solicitor. Just a thought.
Re: mosin nagant bayonets illegal?
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:10 pm
by meles meles
We don't understand that...
Re: mosin nagant bayonets illegal?
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:28 pm
by Sandgroper
Another other avenue to follow is to look at how arrows and bolt/quarrels are covered and dealt with in the legislation.
Re: mosin nagant bayonets illegal?
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:31 pm
by meles meles
Arrows = good
Quarrels = devil's spawn
Declares a vested interest: we own and use several good stout yew warbows*...
* Not all longbows are warbows, but all warbows are longbows**
** And full compass at that
Re: mosin nagant bayonets illegal?
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:50 pm
by Sandgroper
meles meles wrote:We don't understand that...
Regarding the date of purchase it's to do with why is it now only a issue after 6/7 years? Surely someone with a M44 would have had a renewnal during that time and had the rifle seen by a FEO or Uniformed Officer?
Edit: And if this
reenacting group should visit Scotland?
Re: mosin nagant bayonets illegal?
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:51 pm
by meles meles
We suspect that `polis Scotia us uninformed ossifers...