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I agree with the last few posters on this point.

There isn't a pre-defined distance from the firing point where ear protection is recommended. They're your ears and it's up to you to do what's necessary top protect them.
Comparing measured Dbs from one rifle to another and one firing point to another in this respect is frankly ridiculous as is expecting all rifles to be somehow moderated to a particular noise level.

Everyone should be using whatever level of ear protection is necessary for the situation they find themselves in. If it's too noisy for you, put your ears on but don't somehow try and blame the shooter or type of gun they're using.

As for muzzle blast, that is a different subject and discussion. Yes, it can be an issue but as long as everyone acts responsibly and politely then I'm sure we can all get on with our lives without having to look at banning anything from the firing point.

Fedaykin wrote:
For me calling for bans on braked rifles opens up a can of worms when it comes to the noise and general blast generated by a fair few rifles without them...stand in close proximity to a Mosin Nagant M44 Carbine firing surplus ammo (probably with a gleefully grinning Snayperskaya at the trigger) you know exactly what I mean!

Hmm.....a muzzle braked M44

A lot of old rifles are louder than many modern muzzle braked rifles.One of the loudest I've heard was a Colombian Mauser carbine chambered in 30.06 and No.5 Enfields aren't exactly quiet either!......If you go shooting it is a noisy pastime and you wear hearing protection to suit, if it is still loud use better protection!.Is it a case of it being easier to blame the guy with the muzzle brake for threatening your hearing rather than take responsibility for protecting your own hearing?

When I shoot at Sennybridge and the FCSA guys are there I use additional protection as I know it is going to be loud, I certainly wouldn't tut and moan about it.

A Braked M44 would probably wake Marx, Lenin and Stalin from their graves!

Fedaykin wrote:A Braked M44 would probably wake Marx, Lenin and Stalin from their graves!

old news, its been done !

Firstly, from 1:40min it is certainly evident how effective a muzzle brake is in controlling muzzle flip and rearward recoil!

Secondly, at 1:07min as painful as standing next to a braked rifle without ear defenders obviously is, there is a comedy moment there as well!

It's legal, its effective, but shooting is noisy. I like mine, I'll continue to use it.

Fedaykin wrote:A Braked M44 would probably wake Marx, Lenin and Stalin from their graves!

I have a muzzle braked M44, let me tell you why.............because I can.
it is awesome but actually quite pleasant to use

pe4king wrote:

Fedaykin wrote:A Braked M44 would probably wake Marx, Lenin and Stalin from their graves!

I have a muzzle braked M44, let me tell you why.............because I can.
it is awesome but actually quite pleasant to use

I still fancy getting a cheap M44 and taking the barrel down to 12".......or how about 9" with a 3" brake permanently welded on, would that be allowed???

snayperskaya wrote: I still fancy getting a cheap M44 and taking the barrel down to 12".......or how about 9" with a 3" brake permanently welded on, would that be allowed???

Are you thinking of a UK legal version of the Obrez?

WelshShooter wrote:

snayperskaya wrote: I still fancy getting a cheap M44 and taking the barrel down to 12".......or how about 9" with a 3" brake permanently welded on, would that be allowed???

Are you thinking of a UK legal version of the Obrez?

Something like this

This is more fun :)