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Re: Merseyside Police visiting people with 12 or more guns..

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:48 am
by 1066
JSC wrote:It would be interesting to find out all the detail in these cases so we can judge for ourselves how public safety had been put at risk.
I thought thats the sort of thing the full time chaps at the national associations might be doing. With BASC having 150,000 members at £78 pa (£11.5m give or take) it would be nice to see a fair percentage being spent on protecting the sport at the cutting edge.


Out of the 150,000 members you would have thought there might be half a dozen decent lawyer/barrister types who would take a test case to court, charging only nomimal fees and stop this sort of thing in it's tracks.

Re: Merseyside Police visiting people with 12 or more guns..

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:58 am
by Mattnall
Without an appointment they cannot force their way in.
Section 17 PACE wrote:
Entries onto private property are governed by section 17 of the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984. The key general powers under that section for entry without a warrant provide that a constable may enter and search any premises for the purposes of –

Arresting a person for an indictable offence: section 17(b);
Arresting a person for an offence under section 4 of the Public Order Act 1986: section 17(c)(iii); and/or
Saving life or limb or preventing serious damage to property: section 17(e).
So unless you let them in they cannot come in without an appointment.

Now, if it is a retail shop things may be different as you expect the general public to walk in.

Re: Merseyside Police visiting people with 12 or more guns..

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:50 pm
by HH1
NoEntry wrote:https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/li ... n-14915746

interesting on many levels

Linked to that article is one talking about the 12,000 plus legally held guns on Merseyside....
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/li ... s-14085738

I'd like to know what they mean by "hundreds of handguns"? Do they mean Black Powder of Air Pistols?, Just seems odd.

Re: Merseyside Police visiting people with 12 or more guns..

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:46 pm
by Daryll
HH1 wrote:
NoEntry wrote:https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/li ... n-14915746

interesting on many levels

Linked to that article is one talking about the 12,000 plus legally held guns on Merseyside....
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/li ... s-14085738

I'd like to know what they mean by "hundreds of handguns"? Do they mean Black Powder of Air Pistols?, Just seems odd.
At least the comments are accurate....

Re: Merseyside Police visiting people with 12 or more guns..

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:09 am
by Chuck
There are more than 12,000 LEGALLY owned guns on Merseyside
and WHAT exact;y.

So the law abiding people are blamed because crims nick their guns - so punish the law abiding - is that it? How many of those crimes were committed by people who legally owned guns - that'll be NONE. More red top claptrap to scare the terminanlly stupid sheeple.

Re: Merseyside Police visiting people with 12 or more guns..

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:14 pm
by HH1
Just an update....

They are now visiting clubs and clubs within clubs on Merseyside. They have also started to visit people with less than 12 guns in their possession.

Re: Merseyside Police visiting people with 12 or more guns..

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:09 am
by MistAgain
Hapless police officer can only watch as his patrol car sinks into beach during hunt for 'missing woman'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... woman.html

Merseyside Police would not confirm that the officers concerned have been reassigned as Firearms Enquiry Officers .

Re: Merseyside Police visiting people with 12 or more guns..

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 4:26 pm
by NoEntry
MistAgain wrote:Hapless police officer can only watch as his patrol car sinks into beach during hunt for 'missing woman'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... woman.html

Merseyside Police would not confirm that the officers concerned have been reassigned as Firearms Enquiry Officers .
Not Merseyside Police m8. They are the Port of Liverpool Police, the docks bobbies.

Re: Merseyside Police visiting people with 12 or more guns..

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 7:29 pm
by MistAgain
More Merseyside Problems .

It seems that Merseyside FEO's are contacting RFD's in the Merseyside area requesting information on transactions .

One RFD has been requested to provide data on approx 70 transactions some dating back to 2007 .

The official reason for the requests is that there are problems with the NFLMS .

Re: Merseyside Police visiting people with 12 or more guns..

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 7:41 pm
by Les
But it is the problem with guns being peddled through the underworld and guns being “stolen for order” that has led to an increase in gun crime in Liverpool. In the past 18 months there have been more than 120 shootings on Merseyside, including five fatalities.
True .... so why sensationalize the amount of firearms held LEGALLY!!!? ****