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Re: Looking for a F-Class rifle
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:10 pm
by rox
MartinS wrote:It must be getting on a bit which isn't to much of a problem, maybe 1983 to 1985! But I'm thinking of how long I would be keeping it for and it's going to be a while to be honest. I don't know if the age would be a problem with parts breaking! I'm sure there's someone out there who can shed a bit more light.
Age itself isn't necessarily a problem; I have 3 Grunigs which all date to the first half of the 80's, and they've proved to be competitive at the highest level. The design, though, is way ahead of the Swing of the same era, particularly the trigger, and the bolt opens with a gently flick of the little finger. When I needed parts recently they were available overnight from Switzerland, brand new from the manufacturer. That isn't an option for a Swing.
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Re: Looking for a F-Class rifle
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:30 pm
by MartinS
rox wrote:MartinS wrote:It must be getting on a bit which isn't to much of a problem, maybe 1983 to 1985! But I'm thinking of how long I would be keeping it for and it's going to be a while to be honest. I don't know if the age would be a problem with parts breaking! I'm sure there's someone out there who can shed a bit more light.
Age itself isn't necessarily a problem; I have 3 Grunigs which all date to the first half of the 80's, and they've proved to be competitive at the highest level. The design, though, is way ahead of the Swing of the same era, particularly the trigger, and the bolt opens with a gently flick of the little finger. When I needed parts recently they were available overnight from Switzerland, brand new from the manufacturer. That isn't an option for a Swing.
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I get where you're coming from! I think my father might well struggle lifting the bolt and I have struggled with the RPA. If its a quality action on a old rifle I can see there's no problem but if it's not, well is it worth it in the long run? I'm not so sure!! And if you can't get spares anymore I'm thinking of sticking with a used vgc Remy 700PSS! At least parts aren't a problem and the rifle would be a lot younger!!
Re: Looking for a F-Class rifle
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:43 pm
by MartinS
Any idea's of the cost for a Gunsmith to fit a scope mounts or rail to a Swing??
Also cost a of a Bipod? I was thinking of about £200 for both jobs!
Am I close? Also what sort of prices do new stainless barrels start from? I haven't a clue on none of this so please help!
Cheers
Re: Looking for a F-Class rifle
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:57 pm
by ovenpaa
Does the Swing have any form of rail at the moment? if the receiver is drilled front and back fitting a full length 20 minute rail is not a big job. bipod wise, anything from GBP35 to GBP175 depending on what you go for.
Ideally you need a wide bipod. A Harris type clone is the cheapest through to a Dolphin or similar.
Do you have a T slot on the front and what is the current all up weight of the rifle and 'scope you intend to us? Barrel anywhere from GBP450 to GBP850 chambered, fitted and proofed.
Re: Looking for a F-Class rifle
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:13 pm
by MartinS
ovenpaa wrote:Does the Swing have any form of rail at the moment? if the receiver is drilled front and back fitting a full length 20 minute rail is not a big job. bipod wise, anything from GBP35 to GBP175 depending on what you go for.
Ideally you need a wide bipod. A Harris type clone is the cheapest through to a Dolphin or similar.
Do you have a T slot on the front and what is the current all up weight of the rifle and 'scope you intend to us? Barrel anywhere from GBP450 to GBP850 chambered, fitted and proofed.
Dave it has no fixing at all for a rail!
T slot I don't know as I haven't seen it yet. What's that?
It's a Mk3 and I'll be using it to shoot 300 to 1000yards so maybe 20x max scope of some sort. I really didn't know that the barrels are that dam expensive!! I'm going to ask if I can take it into Fultons just to check the barrel over!!
Re: Looking for a F-Class rifle
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:24 pm
by ovenpaa
T slot is an Anschutz type rail that would be used to fit a hand stop, it can also be used to fit the bipod, in fact if it does have one I *might* be able to help with an F Class wide footprint bipod.
Does it really need a barrel? Also have a look at Fox Firearms cheapy 'scope's they have some very good reviews and are a tad over a hundred quid. Bargain at that price
Re: Looking for a F-Class rifle
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:16 am
by MartinS
Dave it has got a hand stop and small bipod on it!
Had a look at Fox scopes they look good and not bad spec!
The barrel I have no idea what length it is or twist and how rounds have gone through it. Have a look on Gunstar at it and let me know what think. Thanks Dave
Re: Looking for a F-Class rifle
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:19 pm
by M99
Martin,
Is it this one?
http://www.gunstar.co.uk/Rifle/Swing-Mk ... 44324.aspx
If so, it appears to be already drilled for a Base/bases.
Mike
Re: Looking for a F-Class rifle
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:36 pm
by MartinS
That's it Mike
I thought it had but he said that it didn't! I've asked for some measurements of it overall and the just the barrel..
Re: Looking for a F-Class rifle
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:52 pm
by ovenpaa
Certainly looks to be drilled front and rear of receiver for sights which is a very good start, and handstop may well be on a T slot or drilled rail which gives youu something to connect a bipod to.
Barrel is a good length as well, now you need to speak to them and find out what condition the bore is in.