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snayperskaya wrote:

DW58 wrote:Swiss K31 or Stgw57

How many battles were these used in?.

Just because a rifle has been used in battle doesn't make it a good rifle.

A "Battle Rifle" is in my opinion one which is intended for use in battle rather than one which has specifically been used in a battle(s).

For example, your beloved Russian-inspired rifles have been used in battles all over the World 1914-2014 but that doesn't make them good Battle Rifles, it simply makes them rifles which have been used in battle.

Therefore, I stick to my original post - BTW, you presumably aren't aware that the Swiss K31 was adopted by and supplied to the German Wermacht and used in WW2 albeit not in large numbers.

you presumably aren't aware that the Swiss K31 was adopted by and supplied to the German Wermacht

I'd love to see evidences of that ....

To be honest I can't remember where I read it, but there were certainly some supplied to Germany and I believe it was even given an official model number.

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I am certainly not aware of that . As far as I know, but I am no expert, the S18 is the only Swiss (anti-tank) rifle that was issued to the WH. I don't think the K31 was issued.

I'm no expert - I'm read about this somewhere a few years ago when researching the K31, but I may have been mistaken. The Swiss without doubt supplied weapons/munitions to both sides during WW2.

Anyway, its neither here nor there. I stand by my earlier post, both were/are superb weapons and would undoubtedly have faired very well if called to. Anyone who has fired either rifle will know just how good they are. Speaking as one who used the L1A1 SLR as an issue weapon - it was a fine rifle but I'd rather have had the Stgw.57.

The K31 has to be one of the best if not the best bolt-action military rifle in terms of both accuracy and rapid fire capability, surpassed only by the Lee Enfield in terms of rapid fire capability.

froggy wrote:Tovarich,




I appreciate most great 91/30 succesfully defended glorious socialist motherland and protected its children for many years but lack of detachable magazine seriously limits most sacred fascist & religious fanatics slaying duty.

Ask yourself question ... When Kapitalist US fascist dogs come kicking your door down, you reach for work of obscure Belgium engineer or for the master piece of komrad Mikhail Timofeyevich ??

That VAL silent sniper in the photo - when I win the lottery and money is no object, I shall be making the factory an offer they cannot refuse, to make me a straight pull version tongueout

STG57 is great to guard stadiums in Santiago & to fire of course but not so sure I'd want to walk it into battle... :roll:

when I win the lottery and money is no object, I shall ...

buy a house overlooking the black sea and shoot my VSS full-auto in my back garden tongueout

froggy wrote:Re-
I am certainly not aware of that . As far as I know, but I am no expert, the S18 is the only Swiss (anti-tank) rifle that was issued to the WH. I don't think the K31 was issued.

Just did a quick google, and turned up this: http://www.gunandgame.com/threads/wehrm ... ck.158773/. Schmitty but in 8x57... so maybe so?

A K31 made by Steyr in 44 ???
Achtung ...
Turd alert ...