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what exactly are assisted openers, reading the bill it says opened by a mechanism, i have 2 knives one has a hole in the blade which i can open one handed with my thumb and the other one has a knob on the blade which again can be opened one handed are these now band ?

greenshoots

No. Assisted openers use a spring or something to help them open. Basically you start to open them, then the blade opens the rest of the way in it's own.
Usually if it had a button it was a flick knife and banned from every being outside your house or import etc.
Now assisted openers are classed as the same. And stuff you used to be able to possess at home, but not buy or trade or ever leave the house are now also just straight up banned. I think it was too do with items being found in raids at homes, so they weren't in illegal possession when the police found naughty stuff. Now they would be.

bradaz11 wrote:I think it was too do with items being found in raids at homes, so they weren't in illegal possession when the police found naughty stuff. Now they would be.

Exactly. Police were fed up of searching houses and finding machetes, 'zombie knives' (I hate that term), knuckle dusters etc. and not being able to seize them (or having to return them) if they could't link them to a crime or prove they had been carried outside the property.

So....to combat a police problem that only manifested when they were searching a suspected criminals home 'They' have now brought in laws which criminalise tens of thousands who would never be on the police radar due to being law abiding citizens while the scrotes who this was brought in to catch will just carry on before.

yellowhand wrote:
One thing I know, for a fact, when an American says they are willing to stand and fight for their rights, well, believe them is all I can say.

Apart from all those living in places like California, New Jersey, New York and Connecticut...

RDC wrote:

yellowhand wrote:
One thing I know, for a fact, when an American says they are willing to stand and fight for their rights, well, believe them is all I can say.

Apart from all those living in places like California, New Jersey, New York and Connecticut...

Where is the National Shooting Sports Federation located? https://www.nssf.org/ Connecticut, I believe.

Polchraine wrote:

RDC wrote:

yellowhand wrote:
One thing I know, for a fact, when an American says they are willing to stand and fight for their rights, well, believe them is all I can say.

Apart from all those living in places like California, New Jersey, New York and Connecticut...

Where is the National Shooting Sports Federation located? https://www.nssf.org/ Connecticut, I believe.

It's more that those four states have introduced more and more restrictions on law-abiding shooters. And they complied. Of course they did. All these things chipping away at the "shall not be infringed" mantra, something supposedly no true American would allow. And yet those four states keep getting away with it.

RDC wrote:

yellowhand wrote:
One thing I know, for a fact, when an American says they are willing to stand and fight for their rights, well, believe them is all I can say.

Apart from all those living in places like California, New Jersey, New York and Connecticut...

From the information we can gather, the people in those locations, are running along at roughly a 5/6% compliance rate with all the silly stuff shoved upon them.
Local law enforcement, ignoring the stupid stuff and not arresting people.
The idiots there passed the laws, the people are ignoring them.
So, they in fact are not complying, and nothing really can be done about it.

If these states actually try and enforce anything, then we'll all see who stands and fights.

For right now, simple non compliance is far better than most people faced with same garbage have managed to pull off.

Apart from all those living in places like California, New Jersey, New York and Connecticut...[/quote]

Where is the National Shooting Sports Federation located? https://www.nssf.org/ Connecticut, I believe.[/quote]

It's more that those four states have introduced more and more restrictions on law-abiding shooters. And they complied. Of course they did. All these things chipping away at the "shall not be infringed" mantra, something supposedly no true American would allow. And yet those four states keep getting away with it.[/quote]


No sir, the people in these locations have not complied.
CT is about the worst, and their own state government people, admit utter defeat with their own efforts, by reporting a 6% compliance rate.
Which in turn means, 94% told them to pound sand.

Our local law enforcement folks, have ZERO desire to go after legal gun owners, regardless of what politicians say or do.

What part of, 1 law enforcement officer, for every 1000 or far more armed citizens not willing to give up their rights and arms does it take for people to understand our situation here in the USA?

Yes, politicians, some of them have passed laws, so far, no one has stood up to try and to enforce these laws, why, because in reality, they can't.

With near zero registration, the ability to sell arms and ammo privately, without paperwork, no one here in the USA really knows who owns what, has what, and where it is kept.
How does a government, bent on collecting firearms enforce their laws?
They don't.

Our police are all armed, they want no part of this silly stuff.

So, just whom is going to do all this collecting, arresting, and sending to prisons millions of people not inclined to submit, no one!

Gentlemen, I'm going to get out of this thread, before I say something rude, crude and socially unacceptable.:)LOL

My very best to one and all as you go through your struggles, as your cousins across the pond begin to gear up to face our own problems in this area.

A historian by training and education, I'm not aware of another situation in history where a hundred million or far more armed peoples/citizens, were being directed to give up their arms, by a government hell bent on disarming everyone.

So, we;ll all see what happens here as this effort progresses.

To live in interesting times is about the best any of us can hope for......................:)LOL

If I end up in prison, all of you might keep me in mind at holiday times, send me a few packs of smokes, a candy bar or two....................:)
Being locked up, might not be so bad, wife has been on my old ass for a while now........

walesdave wrote:

bradaz11 wrote:I think it was too do with items being found in raids at homes, so they weren't in illegal possession when the police found naughty stuff. Now they would be.

Exactly. Police were fed up of searching houses and finding machetes, 'zombie knives' (I hate that term), knuckle dusters etc. and not being able to seize them (or having to return them) if they could't link them to a crime or prove they had been carried outside the property.

So....to combat a police problem that only manifested when they were searching a suspected criminals home 'They' have now brought in laws which criminalise tens of thousands who would never be on the police radar due to being law abiding citizens while the scrotes who this was brought in to catch will just carry on before.

yup. only positive is the police might actually be able to start charging folk when they raid them. but at what cost.