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Nubie question .. Blackpowder licensing ..
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:03 pm
by zzr1100
How does licensing work on black powder Firearms ,Is it the same as for modern firearms ?
Sorry for the newbie question ..
Thanks in advance
ZZR
Re: Nubie question .. Blackpowder licensing ..
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:07 pm
by Doz
Yes but... if you use proper blackpowder rather than one of the modern substitutes you'll need to apply for an explosives certificate as well which is a seperate form (or at least it was the last time I did it). Special storage arrangements apply to keeping powder at home but it's all pretty simple stuff.
Re: Nubie question .. Blackpowder licensing ..
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:09 pm
by zzr1100
So each firearm has to be nominated on cert, serial numbers etc .. Do pistols have to be "long barrel" ??
Re: Nubie question .. Blackpowder licensing ..
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:11 pm
by saddler
zzr1100 wrote:How does licensing work on black powder Firearms ,Is it the same as for modern firearms ?
Original blackpowder guns = no licence needed, they are antique
Modern blackpowder guns - Section 1 or Section 2 depending on type, pistols can be any barrel length as they are muzzle loading so not under the Section 5 ruling
The main difference is IF you want to use Blackpowder, this requires a different document - an Explosives Licence - PLUS a suitable wooden storage container
BUT
Run them on one of the DEDICATED purpose made black powder substitutes = not classed as explosive = no extra paperwork needed
Re: Nubie question .. Blackpowder licensing ..
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:12 pm
by Doz
Yep, each one nominated and serial numbers logged, however the barrel business does not apply (as Saddler just beat me to above!). In other words you can have a pistol with a barrel like the designer intended.
Re: Nubie question .. Blackpowder licensing ..
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:13 pm
by M99
saddler wrote:zzr1100 wrote:How does licensing work on black powder Firearms ,Is it the same as for modern firearms ?
Original blackpowder guns = no licence needed, they are antique -
but if you want to shoot them they need to be on ticket
Modern blackpowder guns - Section 1 or Section 2 depending on type, pistols can be any barrel length as they are muzzle loading so not under the Section 5 ruling
The main difference is IF you want to use Blackpowder, this requires a different document - an Explosives Licence - PLUS a suitable wooden storage container
BUT
Run them on one of the DEDICATED purpose made black powder substitutes = not classed as explosive = no extra paperwork needed
Re: Nubie question .. Blackpowder licensing ..
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:17 pm
by zzr1100
Thanks folks ... Just thinking of how much fun I had back in the day with a flintlock duelling pistol !
Re: Nubie question .. Blackpowder licensing ..
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:37 pm
by IainWR
NRA has a pair of (replica) percussion cap duelling pistols for hire.
No human(oid) targets allowed I'm afraid, and no refunds on the one that isn't fired!
Iain
Re: Nubie question .. Blackpowder licensing ..
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:43 pm
by ovenpaa
The explosives certificate is available form your Police Firearms Department and is actually free of charge, also the new Acquire and Keep Exp Certs include your recipient transfer notice on the back so no more trying to track down a faceless name in the HSE to squire your missing paperwork.
Re: Nubie question .. Blackpowder licensing ..
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:46 pm
by zzr1100
Are the modern muzzle loader propellants just as smoky and corrosive as black powder ?