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'Access All Areas' Condition
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:59 pm
by SevenSixTwo
Is it possible to get a condition whereby you can use your firearms on "any HO approved and insured ranges in the UK?" - or are we usually just restricted to our 'home club' only?
Re: 'Access All Areas' Condition
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:03 pm
by paxtond
My Fac says
" any home office approved range, while adequate financial insurance is in place"
Re: 'Access All Areas' Condition
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:07 pm
by SevenSixTwo
[sigh]...
Just a had a variation fecked-off (including additions) for asking for the above.

I thought it was reasonable.
Re: 'Access All Areas' Condition
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:13 pm
by techguy
Mine says I can shoot anywhere for target shooting whilst a member of my target club on ranges suitable for that class of firearm with insurance.. Thumbs up to Kent on that one as I shoot all over the place :)
Re: 'Access All Areas' Condition
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:29 pm
by Chapuis
SevenSixTwo why don't you look in the H.O. guidance to police document to see what the normal recommended wording is. I can't remember exactly what it says on my certificate at the moment only that it mentions my home club and then other ranges for which adequate insurance provision is made. I would say however that as you are based in N.I. things may be slightly different.
Re: 'Access All Areas' Condition
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:57 am
by johngarnett
My cert, Devon and Cornwall, says "firearms and ammunition shall be used for target shooting and only whilst a member of Duchy Shooting Assn on ranges suitable fot the safe use of that class of firearm and with adequte financial arrangements in place to meet any injury or damage claim"
Aother variation on a theme!!
JohnG :cornwall:
Re: 'Access All Areas' Condition
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:06 am
by GazMorris
SevenSixTwo wrote:Just a had a variation fecked-off (including additions) for asking for the above.

I thought it was reasonable.
It's not only reasonably, it's considered pretty much standard as far as I'm aware! i'd go back and challenge this as it seems unreasonably restrictive. I'm allowed to use the firearms on my certificate only while a member of the NRA (not a problem as I'm a life member) and on any range the competent authority has certified.
Good luck.
Gaz
Re: 'Access All Areas' Condition
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:40 am
by Chapuis
johngarnett wrote:My cert, Devon and Cornwall, says "firearms and ammunition shall be used for target shooting and only whilst a member of Duchy Shooting Assn on ranges suitable fot the safe use of that class of firearm and with adequte financial arrangements in place to meet any injury or damage claim"
Aother variation on a theme!!
JohnG :cornwall:
That's the same actual wording as on mine John though obviously a different club mentioned (standard condition).
I still think that the problem with 762 is where he resides at the moment, licencing is slightly different there so conditions on certificates may well be more restrictive.
Re: 'Access All Areas' Condition
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:27 am
by NoEntry
Chapuis wrote:johngarnett wrote:My cert, Devon and Cornwall, says "firearms and ammunition shall be used for target shooting and only whilst a member of Duchy Shooting Assn on ranges suitable fot the safe use of that class of firearm and with adequte financial arrangements in place to meet any injury or damage claim"
Aother variation on a theme!!
JohnG :cornwall:
That's the same actual wording as on mine John though obviously a different club mentioned (standard condition).
I still think that the problem with 762 is where he resides at the moment, licencing is slightly different there so conditions on certificates may well be more restrictive.
Mine is very similar from memory it mentions my club and any ranges deemed suitable with adequate financial arrangements.
I find it interesting since it doesn't say who deems the range suitable, or what a range is. All in all yet another condition that is just about un enforceable.
Mike
Re: 'Access All Areas' Condition
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:32 am
by Blackstuff
GazMorris wrote:SevenSixTwo wrote:Just a had a variation fecked-off (including additions) for asking for the above.

I thought it was reasonable.
It's not only reasonably, it's considered pretty much standard as far as I'm aware! i'd go back and challenge this as it seems unreasonably restrictive. I'm allowed to use the firearms on my certificate only while a member of the NRA (not a problem as I'm a life member) and on any range the competent authority has certified.
Good luck.
Gaz
+1
They might have misunderstood what you were asking for :roll: