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What happened to basic safety drills?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... stake.html

Including :

Army sergeant in the Queen Alexandra's Royal Army Nursing Corps accidentally fired an anti-tank weapon in his Helmand Province patrol base in Afghanistan in January 2012. The blunder caused structural damage to the base.

Someone playing Dirty Harry

A lance corporal from the 5th Battalion The Rifles shot himself in the hand and leg in Helmand Province with a Smith and Wesson in May last year

And crockery based craziness from the Daily Mail.

A lance corporal in the 14th Signal Regiment accidentally discharged a P226 Sig Saucer pistol at Camp Bastion last September, causing damage to a tent.

You can wait for the number to rise now that they have issued Glock handguns.

Why did anyone think that letting an army sergeant from the Queen Alexandra's Royal Army Nursing Corp anywhere near an anti-tank weapon would be a good idea! I cannot imagine any particular surgical procedure that would require the use of an 84mm (I may be showing my age here). It's a bit like having sailors and RAF types running around with guns

Mezzer

ordnance wrote:You can wait for the number to rise now that they have issued Glock handguns.

only if they play around with them......

A mistake to issue them with dangerous mess kit, those Sig Saucers sound lethal.

only if they play around with them......

Not necessarily the idea is that you can carry with a round in the chamber. The nd/s are usually caused when the trigger is unintentionally pulled. A lot of police forces found when the glock was issued that ND/S went up. They went to the extent of fitting heaver triggers the New York trigger. You accidentally pull the trigger on a firearm when the safety is on no problem do it with a glock and you have a N/D. They even have a name for it glock leg.

Glock leg


A condition where a person shoots himself (or herself) in the leg while holstering their Glock pistol.

This can happen with any weapon yielded by a user, but it is common among Glock pistols due to the lack of a manual safety, relatively light trigger pull, and lack of a proper hammer to push on while holstering.

Trigger gets pulled gun goes bang, what's so hard to understand? NYPD, well not exactly shining examples of good gun handling are they - just ask the bystanders that get shot!

Oh the holster in the photo, was he too mean to but a new one? And who uses leather or soft Cordura these days, use a decent Kydex holster and the problem goes away.

A Glock has it's safety on he trigger, if you are haphazard on the trigger you do NOT get a bang - been there done that. You have to depress that little lever which pulling the trigger from the side won't do.

Round chambered and hammer down, ideal carry condition for a personal defence weapon.

Interesting the Swiss (and I think Belgians) have never had this problem in over 10 years!

ordnance wrote:

only if they play around with them......

Not necessarily the idea is that you can carry with a round in the chamber. The nd/s are usually caused when the trigger is unintentionally pulled. A lot of police forces found when the glock was issued that ND/S went up. They went to the extent of fitting heaver triggers the New York trigger. You accidentally pull the trigger on a firearm when the safety is on no problem do it with a glock and you have a N/D. They even have a name for it glock leg.

Glock leg


A condition where a person shoots himself (or herself) in the leg while holstering their Glock pistol.

This can happen with any weapon yielded by a user, but it is common among Glock pistols due to the lack of a manual safety, relatively light trigger pull, and lack of a proper hammer to push on while holstering.

hmm 30 years after the Glock was launched, people are still trying to blame Glock for poor handling practise ?

NDs=('negligent discharges')

Chuck wrote:Round chambered and hammer down, ideal carry condition for a personal defence weapon.

Which ostensibly is how the Glock is carried......

Chuck wrote:Interesting the Swiss (and I think Belgians) have never had this problem in over 10 years!

And the Swiss and the Belgians have seen how much combat over the last 10 years....?