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RFD transfers: how do they work?
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:41 pm
by meles meles
How does an RFD transfer work, oomans? Who pays what to whom, when and where? We've seen a nice bangstick we like at t'wrong end of the country so we need to think about a means of acquiring it without us toddling off with a pawful of cash.
Re: RFD transfers: how do they work?
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:46 pm
by Demonic69
I've just done one. Paid the seller direct, will pay the rfd their bit when I collect. The receiver mails or faxes their details to the seller, who then includes their details with the shipment.
That's how I understand it :-)
I don't read my own signature!
Re: RFD transfers: how do they work?
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:47 pm
by Sandgroper
Normally you just pay the cost of postage from one RFD to another, plus the receiving RFD admin fee which is normally about £25.
So, if it cost £25 to ship to your receiving RFD and he charged a £25 fee - it would an extra £50 to the price of the rifle.
Re: RFD transfers: how do they work?
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:50 pm
by dromia
The person you are buying the rifle off will need to arrange with their RFD to take the gun off their ticket and send it to your nominated RFD. There will be a charge for this, at least the shipping cost , total cost will be dependant on the RFD's charges. Generally the person selling the rifle will add this cost onto the purchase price.
Your RFD will the receive the firearm and then enter it upon your ticket, again there may be a charge levied by your RFD to do this. You will again pay this fee.
It is common practice throughout the industry although there is a school of thought that technically it is against the law.
Re: RFD transfers: how do they work?
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:54 pm
by Sandgroper
dromia wrote:The person you are buying the rifle off will need to arrange with their RFD to take the gun off their ticket and send it to your nominated RFD. There will be a charge for this, at least the shipping cost , total cost will be dependant on the RFD's charges. Generally the person selling the rifle will add this cost onto the purchase price.
Your RFD will the receive the firearm and then enter it upon your ticket, again there may be a charge levied by your RFD to do this. You will again pay this fee.
It is common practice throughout the industry although there is a school of thought that technically it is against the law.
That's interesting - how so?
Re: RFD transfers: how do they work?
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 3:27 pm
by dromia
It has to do with who has title of the firearm, if you purchase a firearm then you have title and the transaction of taking it off the sellers ticket and putting onto the buyers ticket has to be face to face, with RFD transfers you are using RFD's as proxy purchasers without money changing hands.
What should happen according to some interpretations of the legislation is that the sending RFD should buy the rifle of the seller, the receiving RFD should then buy the rifle of the sending RFD and purchaser should then buy the rifle of the receiving RFD.
Re: RFD transfers: how do they work?
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:07 pm
by IainWR
I'm not certain (because I haven't read up on it in the last few minutes) but I think the latest Home Office Guidance legitimises the usual practice. RFD accepts firearm from FAC holder and charges for the service and the movement, RFD sends to other RFD, new holder picks up from other RFD who charges for the service, FAC holders pay each other for the value plus or minus the service and transport costs. .
And Badger, as you are a member, the NRA will act a receiving agent for you including up to a month's storage for £15, payable when you collect the firearm.
Re: RFD transfers: how do they work?
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:16 pm
by Demonic69
Ian, I'm assuming that's just Bisley again?
I don't read my own signature!
Re: RFD transfers: how do they work?
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:17 pm
by meles meles
Thanks for the info Iain, much appreciated !
Re: RFD transfers: how do they work?
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:22 pm
by dromia
Legitimise or recognise the practice?