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hi
what are peoples thoughts who own the steyr aug z. i have a .223 slot but not sure what route to go down. i like the ar's but also quite like the look of the aug, and want something for csr. there seems to be some gripe regarding the cocking handle but i could probably make something up to replace that. any other problems with them.


jay

you can order Raptor charging handles from the States, the trigger can take some getting used to (trigger tamers are available), and they are not a sexy AR15 razz other than that I find mine very accurate and fun to use.

I've shot selective fire Steyr AUGs in Luxembourg - handle nicely, but the trigger is terrible and the cocking handle a bit odd. The original built-in optics are absolutely awful, but if you can get the equivalent of the A3 with the Picantinny rail you can use whatever you like. The problem with the sight is the odd doughnut-shaped reticle which is very imprecise and difficult and longer ranges, plus the light gathering power of the narrow tube isn't good.

My Luxembourg pal has had some sort of replacement trigger fitted to his since I last used it which he says has made a massive improvment - he's also having the factory optic removed and an A3-type rail retro-fitted.

jay851 wrote:hi
what are peoples thoughts who own the steyr aug z. i have a .223 slot but not sure what route to go down. i like the ar's but also quite like the look of the aug, and want something for csr. there seems to be some gripe regarding the cocking handle but i could probably make something up to replace that. any other problems with them.


jay

never liked it. Shot it any which way from full auto to semi but it is and remains a military gun. If you are going to war great rifle but for anything else I would not recommend it.

You can do a lot with the trigger but even after the best trigger job in the world it will not even be remotely close to an aftermarket AR trigger.

Mag changes are a pain in the ass. Best way to do them is slamm the button with the replacement mag and then put it in but any which way waaaay slower than with an AR

If we are talking semi the short stroke system sucks for IPSC or anything like it. Never understood why people spend tons of money to make a rifle lighter and have less recoil for faster splits and then go for a piston system where you have moving mass above the barrel. Also the gasvent is actually there where you should have your lead hand for fast target changes. So you cannot have your hand there and so ergonomics suck.

For staight pull most of that does not matter but the trigger will always be bad not to mention that even here in Austria they are more expensive than an AR.

For what they are they're seriously over priced now. When I got mine they were £799, but the price had just come down from £1299, now they're £1699!!

By the time you fix the cocking handle and the trigger you could have bought a fairly sorted AR.

As a side note, if I had kept mine I got have actually made a profit when I sold it.

I fired the first model in semi-auto format in Switzerland, seriously the least impressive gun I ever fired, with few exceptions, the sights as mentioned were pretty poo.

It was so unremarkable I often forget that I ever shot it.

original optics were meant for fast target aquisition,not precision long distance target work. you are not going to find a "Z" with them fitted, the "Z"'s are fitted with a piccitinny rail as standard.
mag changes are not a major part of CSR to my limited knowledge, I am sure there are people better placed to comment on that.
if you look around you are going to find one a lot cheaper than an AR, especially bearing in mind that a lot of the AR's around now are purpose built target rifles with a lot of specialised input, if you want to try out CSR I am sure there will be loan rifles available, or you can try an AUG "Z" and see if you want to upgrade at a later date, they make an interesting change from standard bolt action rifles, but are really just military weapons, with all that entails.

BamBam wrote:For what they are they're seriously over priced now. When I got mine they were £799, but the price had just come down from £1299, now they're £1699!!

By the time you fix the cocking handle and the trigger you could have bought a fairly sorted AR.

As a side note, if I had kept mine I got have actually made a profit when I sold it.

raptor handle about £35 inc tax, trigger? just learn to use it tongueout what do fairly sorted AR's start at now?

kennyc wrote: what do fairly sorted AR's start at now?

£1560-

I have a Steyr Aug picture here.



I bought it because it was not an AR and the AR's I liked (LanTac Raven) were just too expensive.

Paid much less than that stated in this forum, the trigger can be stiff but not unmanageable, I have just enquired about a trigger tamer (£59.95), they reduce the trigger weight by half.

Try this forum on here, a nice picture of Blackstuff's Steyr:

http://www.full-bore.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=13309