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Rifle id......
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 11:52 am
by snayperskaya
Anyone know what the rifle is that the chap with the binoculars is carrying?.

Re: Rifle id......
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 12:06 pm
by Kungfugerbil
That's what is technically known as 'bagpipes' - a fearsome weapon capable of unleashing a barrage of unpleasantness. Can be found readily in high streets around Christmas. If it's not Section 5, it should be.
Sorry.
Looks like it has a stutzen type stock, unless it's my eyes playing a trick on me. Fairly short barrel too. No idea though.
Re: Rifle id......
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 12:09 pm
by Jame5m
Steyr Mannlicher-Schoenauer
Re: Rifle id......
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 12:10 pm
by dromia
That is supposed to be Lord Lovat, the still is from the Longest Day Film of Operation Overlord.
In the film the character carried a Steyr Mannlicher-Schoenauer Stutzen sporting rifle, in reality it was probably an M1 carbine Lord Lovat carried on the 6th of June 1944.
Re: Rifle id......
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 12:16 pm
by snayperskaya
Kungfugerbil wrote:That's what is technically known as 'bagpipes' - a fearsome weapon capable of unleashing a barrage of unpleasantness. Can be found readily in high streets around Christmas. If it's not Section 5, it should be.
Sorry.
Looks like it has a stutzen type stock, unless it's my eyes playing a trick on me. Fairly short barrel too. No idea though.
I think of them as "torture tubes"!
I spotted the stutzen style forend and couldn't place the rifle......could "personal" weapons be carried?, but then you'd think that ammunition supply would be a problem unless it is a .303?
Re: Rifle id......
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 12:34 pm
by BamBam
The piper was Bill Millin and in reality he carried no firearm on that day. German snipers Bill talked to after they were captured claimed they didn't shoot him as they reckoned he had gone mad.
Re: Rifle id......
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 12:59 pm
by Sim G
snayperskaya wrote:
I think of them as "torture tubes"!
I spotted the stutzen style forend and couldn't place the rifle......could "personal" weapons be carried?, but then you'd think that ammunition supply would be a problem unless it is a .303?
"Personal weapons? Col "Fighting Jack" Churchill of the Manchester Regt, the No3 Commando also played the bagpipes on occasision when going into battle. Likewise, he used a basket hilted sword in hand-to-hand combat in France and is credited at the only British soldier to kill a German in WW2 with a .......... longbow!
Re: Rifle id......
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 1:54 pm
by ovenpaa
Mad as a box of frogs, thank heavens for people like Lovat being on our side :)
Re: Rifle id......
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 2:29 pm
by GeeRam
dromia wrote:That is supposed to be Lord Lovat, the still is from the Longest Day Film of Operation Overlord.
In the film the character carried a Steyr Mannlicher-Schoenauer Stutzen sporting rifle, in reality it was probably an M1 carbine Lord Lovat carried on the 6th of June 1944.
Correct, Lovet carried a M1 onto the beach on D-Day.
Hollywood got it wrong as usual, or rather wrong beach landing, even though Lovet visited the set during filming posing for photos with Peter Lawford.
It was wrong beach in that Lovet did carry his personal Mannlicher-Shoenauer carbine onto the beach during the ill-fated Dieppe raid in 1942.
Re: Rifle id......
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 6:51 pm
by snayperskaya
Sim G wrote:snayperskaya wrote:
I think of them as "torture tubes"!
I spotted the stutzen style forend and couldn't place the rifle......could "personal" weapons be carried?, but then you'd think that ammunition supply would be a problem unless it is a .303?
"Personal weapons? Col "Fighting Jack" Churchill of the Manchester Regt, the No3 Commando also played the bagpipes on occasision when going into battle. Likewise, he used a basket hilted sword in hand-to-hand combat in France and is credited at the only British soldier to kill a German in WW2 with a .......... longbow!
Sorry folks, I didn't realise it was a still from a film, I thought it was an original WW2 photo
Sim.......By "personal" weapons I meant could officers carrying their own rifles rather than issued rifles, in the way some officers in WW1 used "private purchase" rifles and pistols.